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05-07-2017, 06:16 PM
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Preakness New Shooters
Early indications are the majority of the Preakness will be made of of new shooters. Who was the last new shooter to win the Preakness?
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05-07-2017, 07:37 PM
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I believe Bernardini. I think something crazy like 90% of Preakness winners come from the derby.
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05-07-2017, 07:50 PM
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Rachel Alexandera
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05-07-2017, 08:37 PM
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05-07-2017, 08:41 PM
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I so hope he's beatable, but out of the horses going in, I don't think he has a shot whatsoever.
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05-07-2017, 08:54 PM
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Conquest MO Money will take a ton of money in this race and Cloud Computing is a lot better than his last race showed. Always Dreaming is far from a lock.
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05-07-2017, 08:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arw629
Conquest MO Money will take a ton of money in this race and Cloud Computing is a lot better than his last race showed. Always Dreaming is far from a lock.
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Cloud Computing really disappointed me in the Wood. Was very high on him.
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05-07-2017, 09:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter
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Wow. Obvious now that the Gotham number was ridiculously overinflated. J Boys Echo and Cloud Computing were never factors in their races since. The horse that destroyed Cloud Computing in the Wood was a soundly beaten, no excuse 9th in the Derby.
Last edited by señorclipclop; 05-07-2017 at 09:47 PM.
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05-07-2017, 09:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter
Cloud Computing really disappointed me in the Wood. Was very high on him.
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The speed bias that day was absurd....everyone was high on him including myself until I saw how the track was playing. I tossed him all together. It takes a special horse to overcome a strong track bias in a stakes race. Did you see the 53-1 upset in the Carter?!?! Track biases are a real thing
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05-07-2017, 09:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by señorclipclop
Wow. Obvious now that the Gotham number was ridiculously overinflated. J Boys Echo and Cloud Computing were never never factors in their races since. The horse that destroyed Cloud Computing in the Wood was a soundly beaten, no excuse 9th in the Derby.
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IWC was never getting 10 furlongs
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05-07-2017, 10:37 PM
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If you are looking to beat Always Dreaming and believe Classic Empire ran the best race of the beaten brigade, then Conquest Mo Money has to be considered no?
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05-07-2017, 10:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by handyman1968
If you are looking to beat Always Dreaming and believe Classic Empire ran the best race of the beaten brigade, then Conquest Mo Money has to be considered no?
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Conquest MO Money will be like 4-1 in the Preakness
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05-08-2017, 05:16 AM
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The last two outsiders to upset the Preakness were Champions.
Do you really think any horse coming into this race that wasn't in the Derby is a budding Champion?
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05-08-2017, 08:02 PM
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AD gets a drop in distance and any horse racing against him is likely outclassed - tough to beat that combo. It'll be interesting to watch his works, see how and what he does between now and then. Looked to me like Johnny V took a look back, tucked the whip away, gave a few fist pumps in victory before crossing the line, suggesting the horse wasn't fully extended and likely has some reserve energy.
At this point AD probably wins the Preakness easily, likely in hand w/some gas left in the tank. The real test comes at the true Classic distance up there in Elmont, NY.
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05-08-2017, 08:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blenheim
AD gets a drop in distance and any horse racing against him is likely outclassed - tough to beat that combo. It'll be interesting to watch his works, see how and what he does between now and then. Looked to me like Johnny V took a look back, tucked the whip away, gave a few fist pumps in victory before crossing the line, suggesting the horse wasn't fully extended and likely has some reserve energy.
At this point AD probably wins the Preakness easily, likely in hand w/some gas left in the tank. The real test comes at the true Classic distance up there in Elmont, NY.
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id be shocked if it didnt look a lot like the Smarty Jones Preakness... the real fun will be picking that 41-1 in the Belmont. He wont win the Triple Crown he is no Pharoah, not even close, not even remotely close to California Chrome either... But a derby winner that will romp the Preakness none the less... #Respect
Last edited by PowerUpPaynter; 05-08-2017 at 08:23 PM.
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