J Boys Echo

[arw629]

Albarado is out with an injury so the question is who is going to ride J Boys Echo? I personally would love to see Calvin Borel get a shot on this one and why not? J Boys Echo would instantly become the wise guy horse this year.

[Racetrack Playa]

If the track goes sloppy, I like JBE alot more , CB can get it Won for sure

[Run Nicholas Run]

i like the robbie albarado off system,
could jersey joe bravo or luis saez get the mount
or is it CB ?

either way it would be poetic justice to
the woman beating drunk that is RA for him
to lose another derby winning mount

[reckless]

I had TVG on this afternoon and I thought I heard Rich Perloff say that Johnny Velasquez was named to ride J. Boys Echo.

I could be mistaken because I usually don't listen that intently when the TVG hosts talk between races.

[arw629]

Originally Posted by Run Nicholas Run

i like the robbie albarado off system,
could jersey joe bravo or luis saez get the mount
or is it CB ?

either way it would be poetic justice to
the woman beating drunk that is RA for him
to lose another derby winning mount

I haven't heard anything about CB I was just throwing that out there as a possibility!

[Bennie]

i thought Johnny V. is riding Always Dreaming.

[PowerUpPaynter]

Put a line thru the Gotham which was the best setup for any horse this prep season and what do you got with J Boys Echo?

not much.

[MNslappy]

Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter

Put a line thru the Gotham which was the best setup for any horse this prep season and what do you got with J Boys Echo?

not much.

I tend to agree with this.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter

Put a line thru the Gotham which was the best setup for any horse this prep season and what do you got with J Boys Echo?

not much.

Lifetime PPs
̶B̶l̶u̶e̶g̶r̶a̶s̶s̶ (worst setup for any horse this prep season)
Withers
̶G̶o̶t̶h̶a̶m̶ (best setup for any horse this prep season)
̶D̶e̶d̶J̶k̶p̶t̶ (insane trip)
̶M̶d̶n̶ (Mdn)
̶M̶d̶n̶ (Mdn)

We're left with the Withers and using common sense.

Withers = overall performance was extremely close to 1/2shot El Areeb

Common Sense = lacks superstar talent, consistently shows a response late, needs a good setup to run a race that looks great on paper.

[reckless]

Originally Posted by Bennie

i thought Johnny V. is riding Always Dreaming.

You're probably right on that Bennie. Like I said I no longer sit in front of the televison and watch TVG all day, especially when it's a quiet day like today and the host has plenty of time to babble on. I must have heard wrong, plain and simple.

[nancy4487]

J Boy looked choppy working out yesterday and switched his leads back and forth. Wasn't thinking of using him, anyway

[boys at tosconova]

he definitely had an ideal trip and situation in the gotham. but he should have run well there, regardless of it.

that doesn't mean he's a playa in the KD though, and he also has the ny stigmata hanging over him as well. i prolly won't be using him as 3rd place looks like his ceiling

[letswastemoney]

Maybe he could be a good backwheel candidate for his supporters. I can't imagine him winning.

[boys at tosconova]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Maybe he could be a good backwheel candidate for his supporters. I can't imagine him winning.

wut?

don't take this the wrong way. but my jaw drops when i hear stuff like this. i wasn't going to say anything but after seeing your "strat line" for the KD, and you giving more innuendos again in this thread, i would love to hear your deductions going on in your head to get there on why you should do it.

your basic premise was "you don't know who's going to win so i'll wheel an okay closer for 3rd"

really?......imo if you don't know who's going to win you shouldn't be wheeling anybody. why would you?

the only reason you should be wheeling is if you think your horse is good enough for 2nd or is a key for 2nd and you can hit your triple if he finishes 3rd..but in this scenario you have to have a winner.

it should be an obv given playing exactas if you wheel you have to give consideration that he can win the race as well. unless he's an outsider up against a big favorite. in which you would only use for 2nd.

[f2tornado]

Haskin is kind of high on this one and I always respect his opinions at this time of year but I just don't see it. He tore up the inner Aqueduct then absolutely tanked the Blue Grass. I know that can be a quirky place but if I need binoculars at the wire of a 9F prep to find the horse then I have a hard time playing at a longer distance with larger field. Add in a new rider and I have to toss this one from the win pool. I respect the Bold Ruler line and decent number of dosage points but this one has the feel of a 12th place Derby finisher. Maybe I throw Haskin a bone and stick on bottom of a tri.