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Old 04-15-2017, 10:16 PM   #1
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:03 PM   #2
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Thanks for info and the work put into it. I think Gunnevera deserves some extra consideration for the derby. Even though he lost to always dreaming, his final times were outstanding, considering up until that race, posts 9 through 12 at Gulfstream had a winning total of 3 out of 122 starts. I believe he was post 11 or 12. Add in the fact that he didn't need the race, and he is my pick to win the Kentucky Derby. No long shot by any means, but you should get decent value.
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:09 PM   #3
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The Buckpasser and RAN columns, are x's there supposed to be good or bad? Personally, I'm not a fan of RAN, and I am not aware of a substantial Buckpasser link?
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:13 PM   #4
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Thanks for this and the work you did to create it.
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:25 PM   #5
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Buckpasser in the X passing position is a great angle when it comes to winning the derby. So yes, it is a good thing. I would like to give credit to Stan Caris as it is his research that has come up with this. It has a very positive derby winning impact value coupled with his fast final fractions.
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:33 PM   #6
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Buckpasser in the X passing position is a great angle when it comes to winning the derby. So yes, it is a good thing. I would like to give credit to Stan Caris as it is his research that has come up with this. It has a very positive derby winning impact value coupled with his fast final fractions.
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:27 AM   #7
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Thanks PuPaynter.

I printed them out and will pass them to my capper buddy as a guide or tool. I hope they're accurate.

I now have 8 KD horses -

Thanks a lot and cheers.

Edit: If Future Wager favorite McCraken doesn't make it I'll have 7.

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Old 04-16-2017, 01:36 AM   #8
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All hail to the Power.

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Old 04-16-2017, 08:40 AM   #9
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Thunder snow last 1/8 = 12 4/5 (last 200 meters x 1.055)

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Correct me if I am misreading the chart in your post, but it is stating that Gunnevera ran the last 1/8M of the Florida Derby in 12-1/5 seconds and Always Dreaming in the same race had a last 1/8M in 12-2/5 seconds.

I disagree on both metrics and furthermore when the work metric is considered for the last 1/8M of the Florida Derby Always Dreaming was less fatigue than Gunnevera.
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Old 04-16-2017, 10:38 AM   #11
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Correct me if I am misreading the chart in your post, but it is stating that Gunnevera ran the last 1/8M of the Florida Derby in 12-1/5 seconds and Always Dreaming in the same race had a last 1/8M in 12-2/5 seconds.

I disagree on both metrics and furthermore when the work metric is considered for the last 1/8M of the Florida Derby Always Dreaming was less fatigue than Gunnevera.
In 100ths of a second Gunnevera 12.23 Always Dreaming 12.53, so it is correct when rounded into 5ths of a second.
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Old 04-16-2017, 10:41 AM   #12
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Always Dreaming is very vulnerable. Won the Florida Derby when all the speed held. His only other 2 routes where low beyers and soft paces he was able to sit on. I think he might be fools gold. Not much of a fan.
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Are you able to calculate the last 3/8 for Sonneteer. I watched the race again and he looked as if he were coming home fastest of all. I read somewhere that he ran it in 36/2?? Could that be accurate? Thanks again for taking the time to provide the info. Much appreciated.
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Are you able to calculate the last 3/8 for Sonneteer. I watched the race again and he looked as if he were coming home fastest of all. I read somewhere that he ran it in 36/2?? Could that be accurate? Thanks again for taking the time to provide the info. Much appreciated.
in 100ths of a second = 35.97
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