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03-03-2017, 10:39 AM
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Snap
What a fraud this company is. Valued at $32 billion? There's no way they grow into that valuation. This isn't Facebook or Twitter, which have wide demographics. Nobody over 21 is going to use it. Great short candidate.
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03-03-2017, 08:29 PM
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tmrpots
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Valuist
What a fraud this company is. Valued at $32 billion? There's no way they grow into that valuation. This isn't Facebook or Twitter, which have wide demographics. Nobody over 21 is going to use it. Great short candidate.
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Twitter might have wide demographics, but don't forget how it started out. Check out these two hot IPOs.
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03-04-2017, 01:22 AM
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PA Steward
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My personal favorite in the last decade was CROCS...
ugly ass shoes (in my opinion) + total fad + insane stock price = EPIC FAIL
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03-04-2017, 09:05 AM
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back in the 90's almost every tech ipo went through the roof for a few years. you never paid a commission on the way in but i used to get socked to the nines on the way out. i paid a boutique firm called Hambrecht and Quist $500 to trade 1000 shares back then. it didn't matter though because they were all rocket rocket ships, some doubled the first day they came out or more. i think those days are gone now, but there are other things you can do to get some smaller pops. like putting money into mutual banks that haven't gone public. having a deposit in those banks makes you eligible to buy their de-mutualized shares. they can go up 10-20% initially. the same with mutual insurance company's where you would have to own an insurance policy with the company.
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03-04-2017, 12:18 PM
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tmrpots
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You could also speculate on possible takeover candidates, if you don't mind sitting on them for a while.
Two that come to mind are Twitter and Square, although Twitter has been passed on a couple of times already.
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03-04-2017, 07:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Valuist
What a fraud this company is. Valued at $32 billion? There's no way they grow into that valuation. This isn't Facebook or Twitter, which have wide demographics. Nobody over 21 is going to use it. Great short candidate.
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A woman friend who's in her late 50's is an avid user and wanted to buy the IPO. I told her to wait until the dust settles. I agree on your valuation comment, but I remember when Priceline was an IPO, I said no way they're worth their ridiculous soaring price at IPO. It stands at 1700 and change today.
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03-04-2017, 08:11 PM
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tmrpots
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whosonfirst
but I remember when Priceline was an IPO, I said no way they're worth their ridiculous soaring price at IPO. It stands at 1700 and change today.
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William Shatner agreed with you and he sold all of his stock for a mere fraction of what it's worth today.
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03-05-2017, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by barn32
You could also speculate on possible takeover candidates, if you don't mind sitting on them for a while.
Two that come to mind are Twitter and Square, although Twitter has been passed on a couple of times already.
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Snap could buy Twitter as TWTR's market cap is roughly only 1/3rd of Snap. I do believe Twitter will be around in 5 years. Snap? That's anyone's guess. What until the lockup is over.
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03-08-2017, 10:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whosonfirst
A woman friend who's in her late 50's is an avid user and wanted to buy the IPO. I told her to wait until the dust settles. I agree on your valuation comment, but I remember when Priceline was an IPO, I said no way they're worth their ridiculous soaring price at IPO. It stands at 1700 and change today.
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Problem is, it went to a split adjusted $7 or so from a high of near $1000 before this huge long term recovery.
It's not the road that kills you its the detours - A. Sorry Seller (circi 1832)
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03-09-2017, 10:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AltonKelsey
Problem is, it went to a split adjusted $7 or so from a high of near $1000 before this huge long term recovery.
It's not the road that kills you its the detours - A. Sorry Seller (circi 1832)
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I was in the biz back when it was an IPO and it was a rocket ship right from the start. The Dot.com crash brought it back down over two years, while most of the other dot-com's are gone, it's still around. Never owned it. I think that whole time in history has restrained many of the IPO's since then, rightfully so.
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03-09-2017, 10:41 AM
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The market cap was $34 billion the other day and its already less than $27 billion. Just wait until the lockup is over.
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