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02-17-2017, 09:07 AM
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Anybody surprised by the list of drug trainers...
...being identified in today's HRU article. Not surprisingly, trainers with the best win percentages top the list.
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02-17-2017, 09:41 AM
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every one must have an edge its been that way since the begining of time  but its a good idea to keep track of them . the bottom of the list may be more profitable ie the lesser known for longer shots .
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02-17-2017, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jess Hawsen Arown
...being identified in today's HRU article. Not surprisingly, trainers with the best win percentages top the list.
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JHA, please provide a link...very interested in that list... 
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02-17-2017, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jess Hawsen Arown
...being identified in today's HRU article. Not surprisingly, trainers with the best win percentages top the list.
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List of drug trainers? Its a list of trainers with glaucine positives. So far only one trainer has been fined and suspended.
http://www.harnessracingupdate.com/p...u021717.pdf?v2
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02-17-2017, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Biscuit
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The TRAINER who was suspended isn't even the trainer. Richard Johnson is a beard for Robert Bongiorno who is not allowed to train.
They are ALL criminals.
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02-17-2017, 11:57 PM
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THX, for the links guys...
Actually, not much to see here...Thur theyears par for the course, imo...
Lou Pena should come out of retirement, as he could show them a thing or two...
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02-18-2017, 09:07 AM
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There is a new President of the USTA coming. The outgoing President, Phil Langley has been a do nothing, everything-is-beautiful, rose-colored-glasses roadblock who has smiled his way through the pending demise of harness racing.
The USTA is the strongest regulator of the industry, while being nothing more than a paper pushing organization. The new President had better change the organization in to more of a commissioners office if there is any hope to right the ship.
The first item on his agenda should be to reduce the Board of Directors from an unmanageable 60 to a close knit 6 or 7. Allow the 60 members to remain on as advisors, but eliminate their voting power.
Then, lets set up a fund to pay whistleblowers to help eradicate the drug plague.
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02-18-2017, 10:47 AM
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turns out that the infractions may be false seems the glaucene may be from bedding for the horses check out article at standardberd of CA. some one looking to make a name for themselfes at the NY racing commision . just the way they said it NY racing commision the leader in fairness in horse racing . always another side to look at . pinheads in goverment 
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02-18-2017, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sharkey11
turns out that the infractions may be false seems the glaucene may be from bedding for the horses check out article at standardberd of CA. some one looking to make a name for themselfes at the NY racing commision . just the way they said it NY racing commision the leader in fairness in horse racing . always another side to look at . pinheads in goverment |
So the trainers KNOWINGLY used bedding that contains glaucine?
That changes nothing.
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02-18-2017, 12:46 PM
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that acusation by you is without merit unless you can prove that they knowingly used it . you sound to me to be kind of a sore loser 
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02-18-2017, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jess Hawsen Arown
So the trainers KNOWINGLY used bedding that contains glaucine?
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Knowingly? Where did you read that?
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02-18-2017, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Biscuit
Knowingly? Where did you read that?
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Don't have to read it. If you train horses, you know everything that touches your horses.
EVERYTHING!
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02-18-2017, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jess Hawsen Arown
Don't have to read it. If you train horses, you know everything that touches your horses.
EVERYTHING!
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I stopped arguing with people who know everything a long time ago.
Have yourself a good night Hawsen.
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02-19-2017, 04:26 AM
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For those who do not know everything about the Glaucine positives here is a must read article.
http://www.theracingbiz.com/2016/06/...contamination/
About this Maryland ruling, the most important piece of information was this and I am taking an excerpt from this ruling
"That investigation led to the conclusion that when glaucine, an alkaloid naturally occurring in the tulip poplar tree, is found along with one of three other alkaloids — protopine, asimilobine, and liriodenine – “it is more likely than not that an environmental contamination was the basis for its ingestion”
In all of the samples in question in both states, glaucine was found along with one or more of the other alkaloids.
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