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Old 01-22-2017, 12:38 AM   #1
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Good value in 3rd AQU 1/22

Anyone have any strong opinions in the 3rd at Aqueduct? I'm thinking the Ballivor could be a great value play. Especially if he goes off at anything near the morning line. Good excuse last race, switch to Cornelio, and second race off layoff. If can get 8-1, looking like maybe it time to send it in, considering how cheap and inconsistent the rest of the field is.
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Old 01-22-2017, 12:54 AM   #2
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Anyone have any strong opinions in the 3rd at Aqueduct? I'm thinking the Ballivor could be a great value play. Especially if he goes off at anything near the morning line. Good excuse last race, switch to Cornelio, and second race off layoff. If can get 8-1, looking like maybe it time to send it in, considering how cheap and inconsistent the rest of the field is.
Will the games ever cease on this board?
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Old 01-22-2017, 12:57 AM   #3
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Will the games ever cease on this board?
No games, is posting that a no no? I'm new so I apologize if broke some kind of rule.

Seems like a solid play, enough speed, class level fits, etc... But I must be over looking something with the ML as high as it is
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Old 01-22-2017, 02:51 AM   #4
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Anyone have any strong opinions in the 3rd at Aqueduct? I'm thinking the Ballivor could be a great value play. Especially if he goes off at anything near the morning line. Good excuse last race, switch to Cornelio, and second race off layoff. If can get 8-1, looking like maybe it time to send it in, considering how cheap and inconsistent the rest of the field is.
I think that horse is ok, seemed to have nice reach late on the wrong lead, has a chance.
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Old 01-22-2017, 05:03 AM   #5
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No games, is posting that a no no? I'm new so I apologize if broke some kind of rule.

Seems like a solid play, enough speed, class level fits, etc... But I must be over looking something with the ML as high as it is

Don't think there actually is a rule against making up different screen names-it gets old and obvious after awhile.

This message board seems to be your entire life...more people than you can imagine, already know this. This charade can't be healthy.

People in the internet have always been making up tales of their fantasy self--you've moved in. Instead of fake outrage of this post, EMD...think about it.

It's not normal, bro
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Old 01-22-2017, 09:33 AM   #6
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Don't think there actually is a rule against making up different screen names-it gets old and obvious after awhile.

This message board seems to be your entire life...more people than you can imagine, already know this. This charade can't be healthy.

People in the internet have always been making up tales of their fantasy self--you've moved in. Instead of fake outrage of this post, EMD...think about it.

It's not normal, bro
You have me confused with someone else. I never created a screen name on here in my life. I thought this forum was for people who want to have intelligent conversations about horse racing and handicapping. Not sure what caused or where your accusations come from. None of the few posts I made are trolling or spam etc.. Please explain how creating a thread about database ideas and possible overlay in the third at Aqueduct is me fantasizing. Geez Although getting 8-1 on the today at AQU is fantasizing.

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Old 01-22-2017, 10:25 AM   #7
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Don't think there actually is a rule against making up different screen names-it gets old and obvious after awhile.

This message board seems to be your entire life...more people than you can imagine, already know this. This charade can't be healthy.

People in the internet have always been making up tales of their fantasy self--you've moved in. Instead of fake outrage of this post, EMD...think about it.

It's not normal, bro
Oh my lord, NCG, you've lost your mind bro. I PM'd you to ask you what you meant by your post (#2) as I wanted to answer this poor poster but hesitated as maybe you knew something. You didn't reply....and now I see what you're up to.

You're pathetic.
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Old 01-22-2017, 10:26 AM   #8
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Anyone have any strong opinions in the 3rd at Aqueduct? I'm thinking the Ballivor could be a great value play. Especially if he goes off at anything near the morning line. Good excuse last race, switch to Cornelio, and second race off layoff. If can get 8-1, looking like maybe it time to send it in, considering how cheap and inconsistent the rest of the field is.
I am using your horse as a cover in picks. Was slightly tapped at the gate and the track was pro speed/inside. I just happen to love the 2 in that race and think it will take a combination of things to beat the 2.

Good luck with NCG, when someone starts capping and taking his attention away, he tends to go postal.
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Old 01-22-2017, 12:02 PM   #9
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Don't think there actually is a rule against making up different screen names-it gets old and obvious after awhile.

This message board seems to be your entire life...more people than you can imagine, already know this. This charade can't be healthy.

People in the internet have always been making up tales of their fantasy self--you've moved in. Instead of fake outrage of this post, EMD...think about it.

It's not normal, bro
What in the world are you talking about? Who do you think this poster "is"?
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Old 01-22-2017, 12:16 PM   #10
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The scratch of #5 made #8 a player in this race, but adding 9 lbs won't help.
Posts #s 8 and over have only won at 3% on the inner track.
Every horse in this race has a reason to win & lose.

#1. -9 lbs & inside post. Slows down after 6 furlongs.
#2. Might wire the field. Lost at 16K, cost $140,000.
#3. 11 lbs off. Awful jockey.
#4. Early kick last race, likes Aqueduct. Has not been close.
#6. Throwout last 2 (Muddy & Turf), 1st time claimer. Cost $100,000.
#7. Highest last race Bris speed figure. Cost $130,000.
#8. 1st off claim & trouble last race. Adds 9 lbs.
#9. E type horses win 45% of races at this distance. Always loses ground.
#10. 1st time claimer. Outside post.

I like #s 2 & 1, but I'm usually wrong.

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Old 01-22-2017, 12:19 PM   #11
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I like Ballivor here too....with a better start and just mild improvement i think he can easily make up the 3 he lost to Motown Sound and should offer better odds as well.
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Old 01-22-2017, 12:33 PM   #12
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I like Ballivor here too....with a better start and just mild improvement i think he can easily make up the 3 he lost to Motown Sound and should offer better odds as well.
That's my logic as well. The wil be a force to reckon with here though since the Ortiz/Asmussen combo very dangerous in these spots. But if can get a price of 4 or 5 -1 on the he's worth a win bet investment. I definitely won't be leaving the off my horizontal wagers though.
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Old 01-22-2017, 01:23 PM   #13
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Oh my lord, NCG, you've lost your mind bro. I PM'd you to ask you what you meant by your post (#2) as I wanted to answer this poor poster but hesitated as maybe you knew something. You didn't reply....and now I see what you're up to.

You're pathetic.
Guess you opted for "fake outrage". I shouldn't have bothered...you don't listen to anyone else on this message board--why would you listen to me.

Go back to Fairyland--I tried.

Edit: It's easier just to put you on ignore after two years...later

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Old 01-22-2017, 01:26 PM   #14
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Typical of that jock got a horse beat who couldn't lose with any other rider. He got him to switch leads though but couldn't make speed this is a grinder he needed to not get away in the back. Maybe next time w jock chg
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Old 01-22-2017, 01:32 PM   #15
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I wasn't expecting him to be bet down to 3-1. I did bet him but there wasn't any value betting a question mark horse at 3-1. The 4th going to be interesting with the high figure horse. I can't count how many times I've seen lightly raced high figure horses come up from Florida and burn NY bettors money.

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