JFK, the right-wing extremist, inaugural address

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Originally Posted by Parkview_Pirate

The real mystery is why he cheated when he had a wife that was as classy as Jackie O.

This is as naive a post as I've ever read...

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by Jess Hawsen Arown

Had the chance to watch and listen to the famous JFK inaugural speech this morning. This self-described liberal would be run out of town on a razor blade by today's liberals.

Imagine saying that you should ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country? That's crazy talk. Today's liberals think government cannot be too big, so they can do everything for you.

Then there was that right wing line, "we pledge our best efforts to help them help themselves Whoa. No liberal wants that. You help everybody and self-respect be damned. Who is this fascist with his far right ideology?

This aint your father's Democratic Party.

JFK favored the establishment of retirement based Medicare. I don't know any right wing extremist who favors that.

In his book "A Nation of Immigrants" JFK said. "National origin quotas are indefensible racial preferences." Not exactly the belief of a right wing extremist.

JFK believed that Unions were getting too much power; but he also believed that they were necessary and good for the people they represented. Not something a right wing extremist would agree with.

Kennedy supported Social Security, even arguing for an increase in benefits. What right wing extremist would do that?

JFK lowered the top tax rate from 91% to 65%, and the corporate rate from 52% to 47%. That is a far cry from the rates being proposed by right wing extremists.

JFK supported federal aid to education, and he opposed aid to private schools. Those are not the positions of a right wing extremist.

As for the iconic quote, "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask rather what you can do for your country." Country is not the same as government and part of doing for your country is helping the less fortunate citizens of that country.

A lot of what you post stems from the wrong headed assumption that liberals want something for nothing.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/bob-sc...gural-address/

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett

No Tom. I simply don't believe it happened like that.

That was the mild stuff.

[highnote]

Originally Posted by xtb

JFK was more conservative than most republicans today.

Nixon was pretty liberal by today's conservative standards.

He opened up trade with China which is why so much U.S. manufacturing moved overseas in the past 25 years -- something the conservative Trump wants to end. Side note: The liberal filmmaker Michael Moore has been pushing to bring jobs back to the U.S. since his famous film about General Motors called "Roger and Me." So what Trump is doing is nothing new.

Nixon expanded Medicare to include coverage to people under the age of 65 with long term disabilities.

Before Nixon, Truman tried to get congress to create a national health insurance fund open to all Americans. That's a pretty socialistic concept for a republican president.

Teddy Roosevelt ran on platform that included national health insurance back in 1912!

Personally, I don't see what is so bad about a national health insurance plan. The way the insurance rules are now are awful for consumers and restrict competition.

However, if companies are allowed to sell health insurance across state lines it won't be long before the health insurance industry will consolidate, and become dominated by a few big players with even less competition and more price fixing.

[Marshall Bennett]

Its also been noted here how LBJ treated lady Bird like crap, when Nixon in fact treated Pat much worse. I'm by no means jumping ship here, just pointing out another contrast between the two parties today and a half century ago.

[Jess Hawsen Arown]

Originally Posted by highnote

Nixon was pretty liberal by today's conservative standards.

He opened up trade with China which is why so much U.S. manufacturing moved overseas in the past 25 years -- something the conservative Trump wants to end. Side note: The liberal filmmaker Michael Moore has been pushing to bring jobs back to the U.S. since his famous film about General Motors called "Roger and Me." So what Trump is doing is nothing new.

Nixon expanded Medicare to include coverage to people under the age of 65 with long term disabilities.

Before Nixon, Truman tried to get congress to create a national health insurance fund open to all Americans. That's a pretty socialistic concept for a republican president.

Teddy Roosevelt ran on platform that included national health insurance back in 1912!

Personally, I don't see what is so bad about a national health insurance plan. The way the insurance rules are now are awful for consumers and restrict competition.

However, if companies are allowed to sell health insurance across state lines it won't be long before the health insurance industry will consolidate, and become dominated by a few big players with even less competition and more price fixing.

I see from your comment on the potential consolidation of the health insurance industry shows your lack of faith in the Americanentrepreneurial spirit. I disagree 100% in that potential end game and EVERYTHING is bad about a national health plan. We don't do socialism here.

You are right about Nixon. The Democrats were furious with Nixon as he pushed the same liberal agenda that the Republicans fought so hard against when LBJ was in office.

The two party system has been the demon against which America has been fighting an uphill battle. The Republ-o-crats have sold Americans on the notion that voting third party is throwing your vote away. '"Hey, if you don't like our candidate, he is the better of two evils."

President Trump may be that shining beacon we have sought for so long. Yes, he won under the Republican banner, but he has made it clear that both parties are in his cross hairs. DRAINING THE SWAMP will also eliminate Republicans.

A popular PC term is 'cautiously optimistic' for those to use to protect their collective asses if things go sour. Nobody can be sure that this will be the greatest presidency ever, but 'cautiously' is just too tepid an adverb to define the sentiment of Americans. Who has a nice meaty adverb someplace between cautiously and totally to echo American sentiments of optimism?

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by mostpost

As for the iconic quote, "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask rather what you can do for your country."

He certainly wasn't saying that lolling around on welfare rolls would help your country!

[Tom]

JFK would be embarrassed by today's DNC.