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Old 01-20-2017, 12:53 PM   #61
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Was watching NBC they have lost their audio.
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Old 01-20-2017, 12:54 PM   #62
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Talk of unity, progress, strength, hope.......no wonder those 65 dems stayed away!

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No, you didn't hear right. It was a disturbing tone. Very divisive.

Apparently rattling off a bunch of lines that sounded like they could have been plagiarized from a high school play about the Founding Fathers is a divisive speech.
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Old 01-20-2017, 12:56 PM   #63
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Old 01-20-2017, 01:31 PM   #64
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No, you didn't hear right. It was a disturbing tone. Very divisive.

Apparently rattling off a bunch of lines that sounded like they could have been plagiarized from a high school play about the Founding Fathers is a divisive speech.
He insulted just about everyone on the stage.
Greatest speech ever!
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Old 01-20-2017, 02:09 PM   #65
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No, you didn't hear right. It was a disturbing tone. Very divisive.
It was an honest tone. Trump knows from the tone of many liberal politicians that they have no interest in working with him. Rather, they are intent in working against him! So, in essence, Trump's speech implied that he was ready to fight with them since they have no interest in reaching out to him. I'd much prefer Trump's honest tone to any tone of a deceitful, silver-tongued, back-slapping politician who has his knife drawn with the other hand.

However, his tone was very consistent and unifying to his base -- to the people who elected him. His speech was not aimed to establishment politicians. It was indeed aimed against them! It was his warning shot over their bow!

It appears you were expecting Trump to tone down his rhetoric by adopting the rhetoric of the very establishment which he finds deplorable and is out to dismantle. If so, you don't know who Trump is at all.
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Old 01-20-2017, 02:26 PM   #66
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It appears you were ...
..being sarcastic. I thought it was pretty obvious once you passed the third period.
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Old 01-20-2017, 03:16 PM   #67
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He insulted just about everyone on the stage.
Greatest speech ever!
He certainly didn't spare the feelings of Obummer, which is well deserved.

56 years since JFK's speech, and the message has to be dumbed down a bit, though not as much as I would have guessed:

Trump, 2017:

Number of words : 1,454.00
Number of sentences : 89.00
Average number of characters per word : 4.57
Average number of syllables per word : 1.55
Average number of words per sentence: 16.34

Indication of the number of years of formal education that a person requires in order to easily understand the text on the first reading
Gunning Fog index : 11.32
Approximate representation of the U.S. grade level needed to comprehend the text :
Coleman Liau index : 9.27
Flesch Kincaid Grade level : 9.12
ARI (Automated Readability Index) : 8.26
SMOG : 11.67
Flesch Reading Ease : 58.76

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JFK, 1961:

Number of words : 1,366.00
Number of sentences : 57.00
Average number of characters per word : 4.40
Average number of syllables per word : 1.46
Average number of words per sentence: 23.96

Indication of the number of years of formal education that a person requires in order to easily understand the text on the first reading
Gunning Fog index : 13.33
Approximate representation of the U.S. grade level needed to comprehend the text :
Coleman Liau index : 8.84
Flesch Kincaid Grade level : 11.04
ARI (Automated Readability Index) : 11.26
SMOG : 12.23
Flesch Reading Ease : 58.58
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Old 01-20-2017, 03:19 PM   #68
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Man, PP...you are into this stuff!
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..being sarcastic. I thought it was pretty obvious once you passed the third period.
Great! I'm tickled pink that you're on board with Trump's antiglobalist philosophy.
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I like how Trump's speech was all about WE the people. Contrast that with Obama's farewell address and Cubs speech, it was all about I for him.
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Great! I'm tickled pink that you're on board with Trump's antiglobalist philosophy.
I'm not sure where you plucked that conclusion from but be happy brother!
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It was an honest tone. Trump knows from the tone of many liberal politicians that they have no interest in working with him. Rather, they are intent in working against him! So, in essence, Trump's speech implied that he was ready to fight with them since they have no interest in reaching out to him. I'd much prefer Trump's honest tone to any tone of a deceitful, silver-tongued, back-slapping politician who has his knife drawn with the other hand.

However, his tone was very consistent and unifying to his base -- to the people who elected him. His speech was not aimed to establishment politicians. It was indeed aimed against them! It was his warning shot over their bow!

It appears you were expecting Trump to tone down his rhetoric by adopting the rhetoric of the very establishment which he finds deplorable and is out to dismantle. If so, you don't know who Trump is at all.
GREAT OBSERVATION! Nice post!
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Old 01-20-2017, 05:25 PM   #73
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I think we all know that I'm not a big fan of our new President but the NBC coverage today has been absolutely shameful. From production decisions of what to show of the crowd during the speech to their ace journalists just rambling their own opinions and thoughts and conflating that with 'how Americans feel' rather than even attempting to report on the event. I'd love to compare the coverage we're getting today with what we got eight years ago from that crew.
I occasionally flipped over to ABC out of curiosity was surprised they'd toned down their usual liberal blow-mouths. George was mellow. Martha Ridex started crying when talking about Obama leaving. Some off-screen reporter was trashing Trump over some racial bs and his treatment of mexicans during primaries. Otherwise they did a pretty professional job all considering. Not having to look at Diane Sawyer was an added bonus...at least what i looked at.
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I occasionally flipped over to ABC out of curiosity was surprised they'd toned down their usual liberal blow-mouths. George was mellow. Martha Ridex started crying when talking about Obama leaving. Some off-screen reporter was trashing Trump over some racial bs and his treatment of mexicans during primaries. Otherwise they did a pretty professional job all considering. Not having to look at Diane Sawyer was an added bonus...at least what i looked at.
For what it's worth, I've stayed with Chuck Todd and the gang all day and the coverage has been alright since the lunch.

Edited because I just realized it got better when Brokaw left. Probably not a coincidence.
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Reuters posted this comparison pic of Trump's crowd vs Obama's in 2009.

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