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09-24-2016, 07:48 PM
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Thanks to all for the kudos.
It was one of the best days I ever, ever had.... I really crushed the exacta and I got necked for 3rd by a 60-1 bomb over a 20-1 piece of mine.... And had the pick 3 that paid $91 a bunch of times.
Hope every one had a good day today, and does every day.
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09-24-2016, 08:41 PM
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$2 Showbettor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
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Nyquist, Exaggerator......so much for their 15 minutes.
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BC Dirt Mile?
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09-24-2016, 09:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless
Thanks to all for the kudos.
It was one of the best days I ever, ever had.... I really crushed the exacta and I got necked for 3rd by a 60-1 bomb over a 20-1 piece of mine.... And had the pick 3 that paid $91 a bunch of times.
Hope every one had a good day today, and does every day.
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09-24-2016, 10:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Andy does it again.
Nyquist, Exaggerator......so much for their 15 minutes.
Gun Runner, just can't close the deal.
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Exaggerator will be fine. He just needs a rainstorm.
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09-24-2016, 11:10 PM
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NoPoints4ME
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reckless
Thanks to all for the kudos.
It was one of the best days I ever, ever had.... I really crushed the exacta and I got necked for 3rd by a 60-1 bomb over a 20-1 piece of mine.... And had the pick 3 that paid $91 a bunch of times.
Hope every one had a good day today, and does every day.
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Sorry, just saw this.
WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!
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09-25-2016, 05:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
Exaggerator will be fine. He just needs a rainstorm.
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obviously he's better in the slop, but in the Belmont, Travers and PA Derby he was ridden the exact same way, Drop way back, move 8 wide down the backside and have nothing. IMO he is not a deep closer, he used to race right near the lead, the only times he raced well back was when the pace was absolutley suicidal.
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09-25-2016, 10:35 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redboard
BC Dirt Mile?
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Against older?
I doubt Exx has another good race left in him.
Nyquist, maybe.
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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09-25-2016, 11:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by camourous
obviously he's better in the slop, but in the Belmont, Travers and PA Derby he was ridden the exact same way, Drop way back, move 8 wide down the backside and have nothing. IMO he is not a deep closer, he used to race right near the lead, the only times he raced well back was when the pace was absolutley suicidal.
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Very astute comment here. I never thought of his races that way but it makes sense.
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09-25-2016, 11:55 AM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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TimeformUS Speed Figures for the stakes winners at Parx yesterday
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09-25-2016, 12:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
TimeformUS Speed Figures for the stakes winners at Parx yesterday
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Did the runner get a better number than Connect?
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09-25-2016, 12:27 PM
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PA Derby Pace Analysis
Based on the formula I posted in my discussion of the effect of Pace on Final Time, I find that the split at the 6F pace call was 1.6 seconds faster than even ideal pace given the final time. This indicates a quick pace that was within normal limits of pace variation and neither a slow nor suicidal pace. Closers may have had a slight advantage and I believe the results reflect that.
I can give a more detailed explanation upon request.
I am looking forward to seeing what CJ's speed and pace figures show as well.
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09-25-2016, 12:44 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsetup
Did the runner get a better number than Connect?
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No, same number.
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09-25-2016, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobphilo
Based on the formula I posted in my discussion of the effect of Pace on Final Time, I find that the split at the 6F pace call was 1.6 seconds faster than even ideal pace given the final time. This indicates a quick pace that was within normal limits of pace variation and neither a slow nor suicidal pace. Closers may have had a slight advantage and I believe the results reflect that.
I can give a more detailed explanation upon request.
I am looking forward to seeing what CJ's speed and pace figures show as well.
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This is how we have it, on the fast side but not coded as red.
1/4 142
1/2 146
3/4 136
1m 131
Fin 128
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09-25-2016, 12:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
No, same number.
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Lifetime tops for both. No surprise since 3YOs are really teenagers going into growth spurts.
I think Gunrunner ran the better race if one takes ground loss into consideration.
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09-25-2016, 12:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
This is how we have it, on the fast side but not coded as red.
1/4 142
1/2 146
3/4 136
1m 131
Fin 128
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Bingo!!! Very glad to see this. The results of our methods are in complete agreement. Basic rule of research - replectability validates both.
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