Saratoga LATE Pick 5

[EMD4ME]

NYRA will have a late PICK 5 on Friday, Sat, Sun and Monday (Sep 2-5).

BUT no late pick 5 at the Belmont meet.

Is this a test to see if the Pick 6 is cannibalized by a 2nd pick 5?

If not, then maybe have 2 in the future?

[thespaah]

Originally Posted by EMD4ME

NYRA will have a late PICK 5 on Friday, Sat, Sun and Monday (Sep 2-5).

BUT no late pick 5 at the Belmont meet.

Is this a test to see if the Pick 6 is cannibalized by a 2nd pick 5?

If not, then maybe have 2 in the future?

The P5 is a more popular wager.
Here are this week's numbers
8/24....P5 pool, $383k...P6 pool $68K
8/25....P5 pool, $580k...P6 pool $165k
8/26....P5 pool, $403k...P6 pool $113k
8/27....P5 pool, $709k...P6 pool $773k....this was an all grade 1 race pick 6
8/28....P5 pool, $461k...P6 pool $113k
I think the pick 6 will be cannibalized. In fact, I the late P5 will cannibalize the early P5. There is only so much money to go around.
Of course this is merely my opinion. I could be wrong.

[the little guy]

Originally Posted by EMD4ME

NYRA will have a late PICK 5 on Friday, Sat, Sun and Monday (Sep 2-5).

BUT no late pick 5 at the Belmont meet.

Is this a test to see if the Pick 6 is cannibalized by a 2nd pick 5?

If not, then maybe have 2 in the future?

You just kind of make it up as you go along.

Nobody said we were or weren't having one at Belmont. However, unless you are running at least ten races, you pretty much can't have two Pick-5s.

[EMD4ME]

Originally Posted by the little guy

You just kind of make it up as you go along.

Nobody said we were or weren't having one at Belmont. However, unless you are running at least ten races, you pretty much can't have two Pick-5s.

You're being too hard on me. No, I don't.


David Grening , Saratoga , 2016-08-28 - DRF Live Posted : 10hrs 22mins ago
Late pick-5 to be offered on final four days of Saratoga meet
There will be a late-pick 5 wager offered on the last five races at Saratoga over the final four days of the meet (Sept. 2-5). It will be known as the "NYRA Bets Late Pick-5."

The wager will have the same takeout rate (15 %) as the early pick-5 and will also be offered for a minimum of $0.50.

This is the first time NYRA is offering a late pick-5.

The pick-6, with a $2 minimum wager, will still be offered.

The late pick-5 will not be offered when the Belmont Park fall meet begins on Sept. 9.

[ronsmac]

Originally Posted by the little guy

You just kind of make it up as you go along.

Nobody said we were or weren't having one at Belmont. However, unless you are running at least ten races, you pretty much can't have two Pick-5s.

He may have looked at the Nyra website which doesn't mention a late pick 5 when Belmont runs 10 or 11 races.

[the little guy]

Originally Posted by EMD4ME

You're being too hard on me. No, I don't.


David Grening , Saratoga , 2016-08-28 - DRF Live Posted : 10hrs 22mins ago
Late pick-5 to be offered on final four days of Saratoga meet
There will be a late-pick 5 wager offered on the last five races at Saratoga over the final four days of the meet (Sept. 2-5). It will be known as the "NYRA Bets Late Pick-5."

The wager will have the same takeout rate (15 %) as the early pick-5 and will also be offered for a minimum of $0.50.

This is the first time NYRA is offering a late pick-5.

The pick-6, with a $2 minimum wager, will still be offered.

The late pick-5 will not be offered when the Belmont Park fall meet begins on Sept. 9.

So because it won't be offered on 9/9 you assume that means the whole meet?

I have no idea what we may or may not be doing, but I am also not just making assumptions.

[the little guy]

Originally Posted by ronsmac

He may have looked at the Nyra website which doesn't mention a late pick 5 when Belmont runs 10 or 11 races.

I hope not. I mean, I give him more credit than being that silly.

But hey, look at it this way, we are offering a second Pick-5 and people here instantly found things to complain about. Who says there's no joy in Mudville?

[EMD4ME]

Originally Posted by the little guy

I hope not. I mean, I give him more credit than being that silly.

But hey, look at it this way, we are offering a second Pick-5 and people here instantly found things to complain about. Who says there's no joy in Mudville?

Most of my handle is on the NYRA pick 5. I LOVE THE PICK 5 Andy. I HOPE there are 2 pick 5's.

I am not complaining. I created the thread, hoping to get you or someone to tell me more. In a POSITIVE WAY

I quoted Grening's report. It said it will not be offered at the fall meet.

Give me a break (literally, not as a figure of speech )

[the little guy]

Originally Posted by EMD4ME

Most of my handle is on the NYRA pick 5. I LOVE THE PICK 5 Andy. I HOPE there are 2 pick 5's.

I am not complaining. I created the thread, hoping to get you or someone to tell me more. In a POSITIVE WAY

I quoted Grening's report. It said it will not be offered at the fall meet.

Give me a break (literally, not as a figure of speech )

I thought it said it would not be offered when the meet begins on 9/9. How is that saying it won't be offered at any point during the meet?

I think we have a failure to communicate going on here:-)

You're very quick to react. Chill please.

[ronsmac]

Originally Posted by the little guy

I hope not. I mean, I give him more credit than being that silly.

But hey, look at it this way, we are offering a second Pick-5 and people here instantly found things to complain about. Who says there's no joy in Mudville?

He sounded hopeful of a late p5 at Belmont in the future. Is that complaining?

[EMD4ME]

Originally Posted by the little guy

I thought it said it would not be offered when the meet begins on 9/9. How is that saying it won't be offered at any point during the meet?

I think we have a failure to communicate going on here:-)

You're very quick to react. Chill please.

Andy, I never got excited. No hard feelings. You know I'm a fan. No worries pal.

Was just trying to clear up what might've been perceived

[EMD4ME]

Originally Posted by ronsmac

He sounded hopeful of a late p5 at Belmont in the future. Is that complaining?

I am hopeful! Its the greatest bet in racing . I hope they make it happen.

[the little guy]

Originally Posted by EMD4ME

Andy, I never got excited. No hard feelings. You know I'm a fan. No worries pal.

Was just trying to clear up what might've been perceived

I'm just having fun with you.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by EMD4ME

Most of my handle is on the NYRA pick 5. I LOVE THE PICK 5 Andy. I HOPE there are 2 pick 5's.

I am not complaining. I created the thread, hoping to get you or someone to tell me more. In a POSITIVE WAY

I quoted Grening's report. It said it will not be offered at the fall meet.

Give me a break (literally, not as a figure of speech )

I don't understand. You feel confident enough about the 5 races to invest thousands on the pick-5 combination...but you don't make serious wagers on these races individually?

[EMD4ME]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

I don't understand. You feel confident enough about the 5 races to invest thousands on the pick-5 combination...but you don't make serious wagers on these races individually?

Yes correct plus its the greatest value out there. Friday I played a $7 pick 5. 2x3x6x1x1. 3/5 5/2 7/1 3/5 3/5.

Parlay was $200. Paid $848

I couldn't separate the 2 chalks in race 1. Same in race 2 ( 3 chalks). Hated the chalks in race 3 but had no single horse to turn to. Found the last 2 winners to be near cinches but had no price.

If I bet each race, I lose the first 3 races probably. I couldve played a cold double in races 4&5 (I did as well for $200). Paid $8 bucks but the value was in the pick 5 as I played 36 combos ahead of the $8 double but got 100/1 instead of 36/1.

That's 1 example of a chalk sequence.

At Belmont. My only specific opinion in 1 recent sequence was in race 5. 9/5 shot. I couldve bet 1000 to win and get 2800.

I knew that races 1234 all had chaos possibilities and knew the chalk would lose at least 2 legs. Bet 1000 and hit a $96k pick 5. And that's with another chalk winning race 3.

If I bet each race individually, I probably lose 4/5 with my only winning ticket being a decent smash on the 9/5.

I leveraged my bankroll to buy the tickets that the public couldn't or wouldn't buy. 4 logical winners in races 1234 with my 9/5, paid $96k.