Castellano and Agent and Maybe Chad Brown Breakup

[burnsy]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

i forgot to mention that there are so many great riders in Saratoga this year that something like this is bound to happen. the place does $500,000 win pools on a wednesday afternoon. the place got nothing but the best that's to get.

everyone always knocks NYRA, but they did an unbelievable job this year. they are making the governor look like a genius. so i guess since no one has anything to complain about NYRA they decided to talk about a jockey agent beef.-

Well c'mon, they have to give the crowd something. Toss the internet world a bone here and there. Saratoga had been going in this direction long before that governor came around. This meet has been going this way for decades now. And now there's nothing rivaling it. A monkey could engineer this train at this point.

[NY BRED]

So, in an effort to get past the "rules" of the game ,perhaps
this is the way to end (or lengthen) this thread:

Gift Box : started 5 times has 2 wins ,total earnings of 155,000,
and notable class race is finishing third in the Remsen.(Grade II)

Destin: 8 starts total earnings is 730,000 , JJ aboard 6 of those starts

Destin finished 2nd in the Belmont, 3rd in the Jim Dandy, and won
the Tampa Derby; obviously shines on class against Gift Box.

If JJ or his agent accepted the mount on Gift Box, probably due to
issues in securing the mount on Destin, ,and now was offered
Destin, I can understand the wrath of Chad Brown.

Then again, JJ is one of the top Jocks in the world, and in the real world
it is hard to believe Gift Box has any shot winning this race.
Moreover, JJ has won quite a few races for Chad.

long story short: no one really wins this battle of logic or
emotion.

Would be interesting to see if Destin and one of Chad's
horses are involved in a stretch battle....

[Fager Fan]

Maybe I'll be told I don't have enough respect for jock agents, but I'd broken up with the agent before just to get out of the 33% agent fee. I find that, and even the norm 25%, to be far too much. The jock is out working horses in the morning and riding in the afternoon, risking his life and limb each time, and also has a limited career window to collect money for retirement, and the agent takes a third for booking?

[Donttellmeshowme]

Looks like Castellano riding for Brown today hasnt taken him off nothing yet. Or is there any other jock worth picking up in the race in which hes scheduled to ride?

[cj]

Originally Posted by Donttellmeshowme

Looks like Castellano riding for Brown today hasnt taken him off nothing yet. Or is there any other jock worth picking up in the race in which hes scheduled to ride?

Once again, he didn't split with Brown, he split with his agent.

[Donttellmeshowme]

Well hes named on some horses for Brown Thursday so dont look like hes taking him off anything.

[Fager Fan]

I see someone deleted my post.

EDIT: You can't post stuff like that if it can't be validated.

[Dahoss9698]

Originally Posted by Donttellmeshowme

Well hes named on some horses for Brown Thursday so dont look like hes taking him off anything.

Hasn't CJ already said that like 5 times already?

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by Fager Fan

I see someone deleted my post.

EDIT: You can't post stuff like that if it can't be validated.

That's the word from the backside at Satatoga. Why you think what is being said there can't be said here is a head scratcher. I didn't make a claim that anyone did anything illegal.

You know how we're seeing things unfold that what I posted makes sense. Agent fired, and neither trainer apparently angry with Javier.

[VeryOldMan]

Moot point re Flintshire, as it turned out Quality horse.

[dylbert]

Originally Posted by xinyi

You're welcome, LITTLE Napoleon.

Wouldn't BIG Napoleon be an oxymoron?

[Grits]

Originally Posted by SuperPickle

Second Chad Brown is Bobby Frankel's protégé. Anyone who followed Bobby's career knows he frequently could get sideways with both agents and jockeys. The reasons ranged from rides he didn't like to not hoeing up in the morning to a failure to accept mounts he felt they should take. Both Gary Stevens and Kent spent parts of their career in the Bobby Franken doghouse as did other top SoCal jocks.

Do you know this young man? Apparently not as if you did you'd well know that he has no problem making his own decisions. NONE. He doesn't strictly follow another before him's format, and certainly not, temperament.

Chad's parents are two of my closest friends, I've been in their home, I've been at the track with them since I've been here. You really should stop "supposing" about their son when you do not know him. You caused this thread to morph into a dialogue about Chad. It shouldn't have. Bobby Frankel was Chad's employer, his mentor, however, Chad is NOT Bobby.

[Rise Over Run]

According to Castellano's Twitter feed, former NYRA Racing Secretary and current Santa Anita Racing Director, Mike Lakow, will take over starting with the Belmont Fall Meet.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by Grits

Do you know this young man? Apparently not as if you did you'd well know that he has no problem making his own decisions. NONE. He doesn't strictly follow another before him's format, and certainly not, temperament.

Chad's parents are two of my closest friends, I've been in their home, I've been at the track with them since I've been here. You really should stop "supposing" about their son when you do not know him. You caused this thread to morph into a dialogue about Chad. It shouldn't have. Bobby Frankel was Chad's employer, his mentor, however, Chad is NOT Bobby.

just curious if you could ask his parents why he has OISEAU DE GUERRE in a maiden race instead of making his first start in a stake race?

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by Grits

Do you know this young man? Apparently not as if you did you'd well know that he has no problem making his own decisions. NONE. He doesn't strictly follow another before him's format, and certainly not, temperament.

Chad's parents are two of my closest friends, I've been in their home, I've been at the track with them since I've been here. You really should stop "supposing" about their son when you do not know him. You caused this thread to morph into a dialogue about Chad. It shouldn't have. Bobby Frankel was Chad's employer, his mentor, however, Chad is NOT Bobby.

How's his dad doing right now? I know he was seriously ill not too long ago.