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07-21-2016, 04:47 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Kentucky Stewards to investigate hokey ride - Castanon
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07-21-2016, 04:50 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
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As they should.......
With my luck , he'll end up at NYRA.
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07-21-2016, 05:59 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2013
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no wrong doing there.
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07-21-2016, 06:02 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
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This one is a real doozy. I look forward to hearing how it works out.
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07-21-2016, 06:31 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Originally Posted by chadk66
no wrong doing there.
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Que??? and why do you say that?
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07-21-2016, 06:36 PM
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Registered User
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
Que??? and why do you say that?
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Fair to assume he was kidding.
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07-21-2016, 06:39 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Originally Posted by the little guy
Fair to assume he was kidding.
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I will never post right after I leave work as I'm still in super serious mode
I will never post right after I leave work as I'm still in super serious mode
I will never post right after I leave work as I'm still in super serious mode
I will never post right after I leave work as I'm still in super serious mode
I will never post right after I leave work as I'm still in super serious mode
I will never post right after I leave work as I'm still in super serious mode
I will never post right after I leave work as I'm still in super serious mode
You're right  
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07-21-2016, 08:59 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2011
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Originally Posted by the little guy
This one is a real doozy. I look forward to hearing how it works out.
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You interviewed him once....Maybe you can get a scoop with an exclusive on what occurred at Ellis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHGoxJ2ovLg
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07-21-2016, 10:09 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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Replay anywhere?
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07-21-2016, 10:19 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NE Ohio
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I'm watching and thinking "wtf, horses break poorly every day."
Then I see the stretch run. The horse starts to make a move on its own, on the far outside, and Castanon appears to be repeating to himself "I will not be in the tri, I will not be in the tri".
Definitely warrants a vacation for (fill in the blank) days.
Check out the comment at the bottom of the article: the guy couldn't understand why the ride was deemed suspicious? 
Last edited by Valuist; 07-21-2016 at 10:26 PM.
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07-21-2016, 10:55 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Originally Posted by Valuist
I'm watching and thinking "wtf, horses break poorly every day."
Then I see the stretch run. The horse starts to make a move on its own, on the far outside, and Castanon appears to be repeating to himself "I will not be in the tri, I will not be in the tri".
Definitely warrants a vacation for (fill in the blank) days.
Check out the comment at the bottom of the article: the guy couldn't understand why the ride was deemed suspicious? |
If I were in charge, 5 year ban, 1st offense. No ability to earn a nickel in the racing industry. Anyone caught employing him illegally, 5 year ban.
Of course, if he's truly guilty and proven guilty.....
Every circuit needs some damn leadership. With stern leadership, stuff like this would never happen.
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07-21-2016, 10:57 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 9,854
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Replay anywhere?
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It's in CJ's link JustRalph. Maybe it wasn't there before but it's there now.
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07-21-2016, 11:00 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 9,854
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Anytime I see a jock break like that (ass in the chair is what I call it), I immediately think somethings up....
Anytime I see a horse's torso and head being pulled inward and upward, those hands are stiffing.
That was disgustingly obvious.
I don't need a jury for this one, fry and ban his ass.
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07-21-2016, 11:02 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 9,854
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I want to book every single bet of Jon Shonk from now until eternity.
I could use a comfortable lifestyle.
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07-22-2016, 12:23 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Whatever you believe his real intentions are, replay makes it look like an easy explanation for Castanon to give, manufactured or real:
Horse breaks a beat slow, the 1 stumbles & ducks out so there's the 2 lengths at the start. His horse then seems to resent the kickback & is getting out into the turn, stays wide the whole way because of this. In the stretch the horse is in the midst of a mild rally, makes an awkward move on the lead change, bears out again when being corrected & that's why the snatch at the end, which really just seemed to cost 4th place.
If this jock has a clean record & there's no suspicious betting pattern, is the above explanation the hardest thing in the world to believe really happened?
I don't follow his rides that often, anyone from the circuit want to weigh in - this ride makes him look like he's got anti-Ramon hands, hear a lot about having soft hands as a good jock, so do we say he's got hard hands? Secondly is his style usually a hard pump & flailing whip or can he get a horse to move without so much activity? Stretch drive was not exactly a masterclass in effort looks-wise, but wouldn't be the first time a jock was halfhearted on a cheap claimer who might not be feeling great under him. Castanon's only other 2 mounts on the card that day were last & then a DNF, so this was actually his most successful ride of the day.
I assume everyone on here now has Tizthedream on their stable mail & will be loading up next time she runs?
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