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06-23-2016, 04:37 AM
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Authorized Advertiser
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Location: Oakland, Ca
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
Regardless of if it's 1 or 2 races, I have a couple of questions:
1) What happens if the horse was a victim at the start the last 2 races? Wouldn't you MISS a true speed horse who is hidden?
2) What happens if a horse was choked and rated in the last race/last 2 races? Again, wouldn't that cause you to misinterpret a pace scenario?
How is that captured in the info?
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Your hypothetical "what if" scenarios--every software developer has heard from day one. The truth is, it just doesn't happen often enough that way. You maybe score a couple longshots every meet with careful study--but it's not a regular daily occurrence. You can also score some longshots with Pace View you would never, ever see without the program.
This is quick, inexpensive software for handicappers that would like a different VIEW of the races and spot plays/angles. I don't care to know a horse's life history...just what he's done lately.
I understand you and other 'cappers have different styles & need to know more-- by all means go for it
-NCG
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06-23-2016, 07:32 AM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
Your hypothetical "what if" scenarios--every software developer has heard from day one. The truth is, it just doesn't happen often enough that way. You maybe score a couple longshots every meet with careful study--but it's not a regular daily occurrence. You can also score some longshots with Pace View you would never, ever see without the program.
This is quick, inexpensive software for handicappers that would like a different VIEW of the races and spot plays/angles. I don't care to know a horse's life history...just what he's done lately.
I understand you and other 'cappers have different styles & need to know more-- by all means go for it
-NCG
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Fair enough. Was just wondering. I can appreciate that.
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06-24-2016, 10:28 AM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
Your hypothetical "what if" scenarios--every software developer has heard from day one. The truth is, it just doesn't happen often enough that way. You maybe score a couple longshots every meet with careful study--but it's not a regular daily occurrence. You can also score some longshots with Pace View you would never, ever see without the program.
This is quick, inexpensive software for handicappers that would like a different VIEW of the races and spot plays/angles. I don't care to know a horse's life history...just what he's done lately.
I understand you and other 'cappers have different styles & need to know more-- by all means go for it
-NCG
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Sorry. One more question. A good % of tracks will have an anti rail / outside closers bias on given days. Is that incorporated into the selections/software? If a speed horse is bogged down on a dead rail, their pace fig can be dramatically impacted.
As a pick 4/5/6/7 player, I can't afford to miss one nugget of info as that nugget might cost me $50,000
I'm always looking to improve my game. A year ago i didnt use TFUS. Now I use formulator and TFUS. That's why I ask.
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06-24-2016, 04:36 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EMD4ME
Sorry. One more question. A good % of tracks will have an anti rail / outside closers bias on given days. Is that incorporated into the selections/software? If a speed horse is bogged down on a dead rail, their pace fig can be dramatically impacted.
As a pick 4/5/6/7 player, I can't afford to miss one nugget of info as that nugget might cost me $50,000
I'm always looking to improve my game. A year ago i didnt use TFUS. Now I use formulator and TFUS. That's why I ask.
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Tough crowd.
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06-24-2016, 04:57 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Tough crowd.
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You're telling me??? Besides SRU, can you name 1 other poster who gets blasted more than me ??!!
Do I at least get some credit for trying to understand more about the software programs/users?
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06-24-2016, 05:25 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EMD4ME
Sorry. One more question. A good % of tracks will have an anti rail / outside closers bias on given days. Is that incorporated into the selections/software? If a speed horse is bogged down on a dead rail, their pace fig can be dramatically impacted.
As a pick 4/5/6/7 player, I can't afford to miss one nugget of info as that nugget might cost me $50,000
I'm always looking to improve my game. A year ago i didnt use TFUS. Now I use formulator and TFUS. That's why I ask.
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I am thinking that you likely already know the answer to this question. Folks who are put on blast are usually put there for a reason...usually their own behavior. Just sayin'... Good luck at The Downs tonight.
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06-24-2016, 05:30 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Originally Posted by kingfin66
I am thinking that you likely already know the answer to this question. Folks who are put on blast are usually put there for a reason...usually their own behavior. Just sayin'... Good luck at The Downs tonight.
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Not necessarily. TFUS has red and blue for bias notations. Was wondering if NCG did the same.
Thanks for the well wishes
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06-24-2016, 06:11 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
You're telling me??? Besides SRU, can you name 1 other poster who gets blasted more than me ??!!
Do I at least get some credit for trying to understand more about the software programs/users?
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You have to admit, you are a bit arseholish, right?
I love you though man. You are always interesting, you bring definite light to subjects, and you post with intent and passion. I love it. While I may not agree with 80% of your posts, I certainly enjoy them and you make me think.
When you post and you make people think.., that is what this should be about, right?
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06-24-2016, 06:41 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 9,854
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
You have to admit, you are a bit arseholish, right?
I love you though man. You are always interesting, you bring definite light to subjects, and you post with intent and passion. I love it. While I may not agree with 80% of your posts, I certainly enjoy them and you make me think.
When you post and you make people think.., that is what this should be about, right?
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Humbled
I was expecting another blast
Arseholish? Can't admit that as I don't see it BUT let me quit while I'm ahead
Let's kick some Arse at the Spaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!
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06-24-2016, 06:55 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EMD4ME
You're telling me??? Besides SRU, can you name 1 other poster who gets blasted more than me ??!!
Do I at least get some credit for trying to understand more about the software programs/users?
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Yes. So noted.
You bring up good points about a pace line selection variable, ie. 2nd race back, 3rd race back, 4th race back. etc. That would most likely require multiple screens, additional programming and adding to cost.
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06-24-2016, 08:25 PM
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Mamma Kimbo
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 435
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still
not to much about the program itself early success stories ,,,ect overall opinion besides the great price .
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06-24-2016, 08:27 PM
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Mamma Kimbo
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 435
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I am sure its great
perhaps I am asking too much as I was just looking for board opinion...sorry guys my apologies.
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06-26-2016, 12:20 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Benton, La.
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Originally Posted by Racey
perhaps I am asking too much as I was just looking for board opinion...sorry guys my apologies.
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Racey- Board opinion, Pace-View is as good as any $35 program on the market that I have ever heard of. It also outperforms some other programs that I have that are in the $500-1000 range. Very easy to use with a short learning curve. Will it make you a winner everyday? NO, but it is a pretty good tool to have in your box.
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06-26-2016, 01:46 PM
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It's well worth the $35, in my opinion.
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06-27-2016, 08:25 PM
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Mamma Kimbo
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 435
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sounds good
thanks
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