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06-12-2016, 12:12 AM
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Yeah, that was disappointing.
My initial feeling is that that was one of the more forgettable renditions of that race. Even with, or in spite of, a head-bob finish. For me the only moment came as they rounded the turn very bunched up for a race of that distance, and there were hundreds of live possibilities with a long way to go. But in the end, it was just another race that I took a deep but cheap poke at, and came up empty. There have been lots of forgettable Belmonts; I think this one gets thrown on the pile.
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I don't look at it quite so negatively. Still a very good race. I think there were so many great performances before this race that a fairly average running of this race seemed to pale in comparison.
As an example, Fish Trappe Road's performance coming in second seemed way better than the winner's performance in the Belmont Stakes.
Last edited by PaceMasterT; 06-12-2016 at 12:14 AM.
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06-12-2016, 01:50 AM
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Race was an 'A+' for entertainment
'B' for Performance
2 nice 'B' horses got good trips, and fired.
Destin had a great positional trip while slightly hurt by the pace.
Creator got a great ride, but had to flow through traffic and make a big finish.
Exaggerator got a stressful trip and didn't fire. Nyquist was sipping Piņa coladas.
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06-12-2016, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceMasterT
Yeah, I had all my money on him. Don't know if he could have won, but at least would have broke even with my show bet.
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Not a single word has been mentioned about the winner's teammate making sure at least one horse was not going to beat Creator and it had nothing to do with the pace.
NASCAR driving has entered horse racing.
Not that I'm complaining, because I had the tri and I wouldn't have had it if Gov gets third, but there really should be an investigation into that.
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06-12-2016, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
2 nice 'B' horses got good trips, and fired.
Destin had a great positional trip while slightly hurt by the pace.
Creator got a great ride, but had to flow through traffic and make a big finish.
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Destin is not a 'B' horse, he has 'F' owners.
Had they raced their horse in the Blue Grass or Wood, he would have been a big factor in the Kentucky Derby and who knows from there. Instead they don't race him because they let the sheets dictate the horse's racing schedule.
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06-12-2016, 07:52 AM
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i saw the handle for the day was just shy of $100 million. it looks like the day was a big success.
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06-12-2016, 08:58 AM
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the all source handle was up over $10 million from 2013, an over 10% increase. i hope it keeps growing from there.
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06-12-2016, 11:02 AM
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Yeah, I had all my money on him. Don't know if he could have won, but at least would have broke even with my show bet.
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I had a win/show on GM; couldn't pass on those odds. Wish he didn't get stopped but chips fall that way sometimes. I have been on the other side of the coin too.
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06-12-2016, 11:34 AM
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Did anyone anywhere on PA forum
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state bet Creator to win?????
 -not -exactly -an -inexplicable -longshot...
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06-12-2016, 11:54 AM
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Did anyone anywhere on PA forum
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And this would've put you all over him? It seldom works this way.
You're clearly complaining. 
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06-12-2016, 11:56 AM
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Did anyone anywhere on PA forum
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Nope. And I feel quite foolish. Especially after he treated me so well in his derby preps at Oaklawn.
The near $1,400 Trifecta was made up of horses that won Derby prep races. If you were looking to beat Exaggerator, it really wasn't that difficult of a race to hit that paid out tremendously well. 
$289 Exacta for the Arkansas Derby and Tampa Bay Derby champs.
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06-12-2016, 12:40 PM
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Creator was among several horses, at good odds, that could/would have been smart bets. But, because of there being so many "possibles" at good money, I just couldn't narrow them down enough to wager, so I passed. The only thing I was relatively confident about, before the race, was that Gettysburg would get the early lead, and the rail throughout. Other than that, I was undecided, and when I'm undecided I usually pass for a better opportunity.
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06-12-2016, 01:33 PM
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Lani would have won the Belmont with Lasix IMO.
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06-12-2016, 02:07 PM
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Very exciting Belmont and a great day of racing overall with awesome runs by Frosted, Flintshire and Celestine. Cavorting not too shabby either
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06-12-2016, 02:58 PM
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I was lucky to get out with a profit for the day. I had the winner for 2$ and the exacta for 1$. Nothing to brag about as that was my only cashing wager for the day.
I was surprised that Suddenbreakingnews was bet so hard especially so since Creator was in front of him both times that they had faced each other. I figured that if I was going to put money on a closer (as closers have not fared "well" in the Belmont), it was going to be on the closer with the best odds and the better of the "closers".
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06-12-2016, 03:00 PM
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Cudos to Larry Collmus on his race calls. Almost made me not miss Tom Durkin !
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