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01-15-2017, 08:28 AM
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#46
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Originally Posted by Parkview_Pirate
If you click on "Watch Live" at the top of the new menu interface online, AND Oaklawn is coming up as a live race, you can then watch it.
However, for TVG to carry a track live but NOT offer the live stream is inexcusable. How are you supposed to see the post parade or paddock shots? Played the last race at OP yesterday, but since SA's race ran over the post parade, had to "get by" with simply seeing one live race cut to another live race.
So, with middle finger firmly extended to TVG, will be closing out my account ASAP.
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It's the same for CD, TVG2, no streaming
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01-15-2017, 09:04 AM
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#47
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 84
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My cable company had HRTV and now via the old contract is locked into TVG2. How stupid that I get the TVG2 without regular TVG.
I've communicated with the powers to be at Armstrong Cable and they could care less.
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01-16-2017, 11:55 AM
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#48
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,956
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Why I still hate TVG
25 mins to 1st @ Aqu and both the website and phone wagering are down
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03-11-2017, 02:01 PM
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#49
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Owatonna, MN
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When did TVG change their free PPs policy?
https://www.tvg.com/handicapping/free-pp
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Here's how to enjoy Free Past Performances:
You must be a registered TVG account holder to qualify.*
You must use your TVG account to purchase any of the following track cards.
(Purchases made with your credit or debit card are not be eligible for the program):
TVG Full PPs
TVG Basic PPs
TVG Watch and Wager PPs
TimeformUS PPs (Single track & day pass)
You must wager AT LEAST $10 on the track card you purchased or $25 on any track if you purchased the TimeformUS Daily Pass.
Once your wager is confirmed your account will be reimbursed by 7AM PT the next day
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03-11-2017, 04:31 PM
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#50
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA.
Posts: 7,464
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Just today. Brisnet is back to being the best value.
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03-11-2017, 04:37 PM
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#51
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Owatonna, MN
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It's a shame because I really came to love the Timeform PPs. But a $10 minimum per card is unreasonably high. Looks like it'll be back to the free Bris PPs at Twinspires for me most of the time.
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03-12-2017, 12:10 AM
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#52
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 28,533
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If the player doesn't wager at least $10 a card, or at least $25 on a particular track...then he/she doesn't deserve free PPs, IMO.
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03-12-2017, 12:46 AM
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#53
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Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Greater Philadelphia Area
Posts: 339
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
If the player doesn't wager at least $10 a card, or at least $25 on a particular track...then he/she doesn't deserve free PPs, IMO.
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Couldn't agree more....I wouldn't have an objection if the minimum threshold was higher tbh....what's the use of pp's if you're too cheap to even wager 10 bucks on the track?
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03-12-2017, 12:46 AM
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#54
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,955
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Originally Posted by MNslappy
When did TVG change their free PPs policy?
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I'd bet money it had to do with numerous users logging in, getting the TFUS PPs, and making a $3 show bet on a race, before heading to another ADW or going on track to make their larger wagers. Hence the promo of the free PP and increased handle was out of whack.
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03-12-2017, 01:29 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Greater Philadelphia Area
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Originally Posted by Parkview_Pirate
I'd bet money it had to do with numerous users logging in, getting the TFUS PPs, and making a $3 show bet on a race, before heading to another ADW or going on track to make their larger wagers. Hence the promo of the free PP and increased handle was out of whack.
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Good point...that actually makes a lot of sense
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03-12-2017, 06:37 AM
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Authorized Advertiser
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Oakland, Ca
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pick 5
Couldn't agree more....I wouldn't have an objection if the minimum threshold was higher tbh....what's the use of pp's if you're too cheap to even wager 10 bucks on the track?
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You're forgetting that many in our dwindling ranks are retirees...playing a $4 double on weekends may be their entire entertainment budget.
The $2 bettor was once the backbone of this industry---now "this industry" wishes they would just go away.
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03-12-2017, 07:38 AM
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#57
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
If the player doesn't wager at least $10 a card, or at least $25 on a particular track...then he/she doesn't deserve free PPs, IMO.
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That's the attitude that's hurting the whole industry,the hell with the small time bettor
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03-12-2017, 08:38 AM
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#58
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 28,533
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Originally Posted by upthecreek
That's the attitude that's hurting the whole industry,the hell with the small time bettor
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Come on...you can't be serious. If a player can't wager a grand total of $10 over an entire card...he doesn't need past performances. He has already given up the game...whether he knows it or not.
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03-12-2017, 09:00 AM
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#59
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,956
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
Come on...you can't be serious. If a player can't wager a grand total of $10 over an entire card...he doesn't need past performances. He has already given up the game...whether he knows it or not.
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How's bout new people signing up? New players don't jump in betting hundreds or 1000's, they start at $2-5 And besides that for putting up with the worse ADW there is, we should get something for free
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03-12-2017, 09:04 AM
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#60
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 9,854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by upthecreek
How's bout new people signing up? New players don't jump in betting hundreds or 1000's, they start at $2-5 And besides that for putting up with the worse ADW there is, we should get something for free
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I can see that for a race. Seriously. BUT FOR A CARD??? 
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