Can Mohaymen bounce back?

[boys at tosconova]

Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey

I was expecting they would find that epiglotis stuff like what took out Cupid, looked like he just ran out of breath....Doesn't seem like he'll get 10 furlongs but he does have talent that's for sure....Toss at you own risk I guess..

10F seems like a big reach considering how slowly he was finishing up in the fl derby. it was really an awful race on many levels. even if you think he had a bad trip it still looked pretty awful

[CincyHorseplayer]

I though My Man Sam looked uneven in the the gallop. Destin looked good. But Mohaymen looked great and energetic in the 4/28

[boys at tosconova]

Originally Posted by CincyHorseplayer

I though My Man Sam looked uneven in the the gallop. Destin looked good. But Mohaymen looked great and energetic in the 4/28

i take these works w/ a grain of salt....i'll never let a work influence another KD bet.

almost everybody sees different thing with them, and unless the works are documented awful there's noting to see. all you have to know is all trainers like their chances, and all horses are in a good spot. that's all they say

[CincyHorseplayer]

Originally Posted by dballard125

This morning's gallop. This dude just looks full of run to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GuG4FJvOXI

Absolutely. Especially when you start comparison shopping.

[CincyHorseplayer]

Originally Posted by boys at tosconova

i take these works w/ a grain of salt....i'll never let a work influence another KD bet.

almost everybody sees different thing with them, and unless the works are documented awful there's noting to see. all you have to know is all trainers like their chances, and all horses are in a good spot. that's all they say

I'm trying to interpret your comment here.

"Almost everybody sees something different with them"

"I'll never let a work influence another KD bet"

"All trainers like their chances and all horses are in a good spot. That's all they say"


So basically you don't trust what you see. You don't believe anything a trainer says. But will be influenced by a clocker if they have something bad to say.

Personally I'll let my own eyes influence what I think about the horse and possibly the bet. Like yourself all trainer speak is not acknowledged at all. But I will listen to the clockers a little.

[f2tornado]

He's working well enough where I'll throw him back on top a tri wheel. I played him in 3 of 4 future wagers so might as well try and ice it with the triple. I don't even need him to win. Just finish ahead of all the other future pool horses and collect a bunch of exacta future wagers.

[VigorsTheGrey]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

He's working well enough where I'll throw him back on top a tri wheel. I played him in 3 of 4 future wagers so might as well try and ice it with the triple. I don't even need him to win. Just finish ahead of all the other future pool horses and collect a bunch of exacta future wagers.

Good luck! How did you structure your futures bets and which pools were you in?

[luisbe]

Originally Posted by raybo

If you were a high profile trainer, involved in an important Derby prep race, would you publicly admit that there was a potential scenario in which your horse would not be asked for an all-out performance, and potentially alienate yourself, and your livelihood, from the racing industry and it's wagering patrons?

I think not. But, for an attentive, and commonsensical, analyst of the relevant data and circumstances prior to that race, that potential scenario certainly existed.

It looked on the turn he was asked everything he had.

[PowerUpPaynter]

Originally Posted by luisbe

It looked on the turn he was asked everything he had.

agreed whip was out

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey

Good luck! How did you structure your futures bets and which pools were you in?

I made a win bet in 1,2,3 and did at least a $5 exacta box with all others in each one. I also have a small Tapit/Others box in the sire future. I also bet Mohaymen over Exaggerator, SBN, Brody, and probably a couple others. I basically have him covered over most everything except Nyquist and under quite a few as well. I can fill the gaps next week if I wish.

[Zaf]

What odds do you think Mohaymen will go off at ? Probably too low for my liking, but at 6-1 or higher I may bite

Z

[dballard125]

Originally Posted by Zaf

What odds do you think Mohaymen will go off at ? Probably too low for my liking, but at 6-1 or higher I may bite

Z

I think somewhere between 8-1 and 10-1

[SecretAgentMan]

Originally Posted by Zaf

What odds do you think Mohaymen will go off at ? Probably too low for my liking, but at 6-1 or higher I may bite

Z

He's 8-1 right now offshore, I think he will go off 6-1

[PowerUpPaynter]

12-1 or 10-1

[PowerUpPaynter]

Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan

He's 8-1 right now offshore, I think he will go off 6-1

6-1 is not good value