+++2016 Kentucky Derby Possible Winners+++

[SecretAgentMan]

Gun Runner should come in 1st or 2nd in the LA Derby!

[SecretAgentMan]

Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan

Gun Runner should come in 1st or 2nd in the LA Derby!

Absolutely beautiful race by Gun Runner, 2 pretty races off the lay off! Mo Tom ran into trouble once again, what do you think will happen in the derby with 20 horses when Mo Tom tries to squeeze threw.

Gun Runner is my derby horse as of now unless Destin or Shagaf run spectacular & have me 2nd guessing my Gun Runner pick.

I have no interest in Mohaymen or Nyquist.

[PowerUpPaynter]

Anyone else think Mo Tom looks kinda skinny and maybe gets pushed around a little too easy?

[barahona44]

Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter

Anyone else think Mo Tom looks kinda skinny and maybe gets pushed around a little too easy?

I understand that around the paddock the other horses are taking his hay money before school starts.

[f2tornado]

That was slowest Louisiana Derby since going to a 9F race in 2010. Does not inspire much confidence a Derby winner will come from there. Dallas Stewart gets his usual goofball in Kentucky. Might as well bet ALL/Tom's Ready.

[SecretAgentMan]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

That was slowest Louisiana Derby since going to a 9F race in 2010. Does not inspire much confidence a Derby winner will come from there. Dallas Stewart gets his usual goofball in Kentucky. Might as well bet ALL/Tom's Ready.

I've seen less inspiring times in.prep races before the derby & they won the derby. Its not always about who has the best times.

Animal Kingdom had a 1:52 in the Spiral. Orb a 1:50 in the Florida derby. We just had Chrome & AP rip off great times 2 years in a row in their preps, but 2016 is a different year.

I still want to see the Wood, Bluegrass & Ark derby. I could care less about the Florida derby!

[SecretAgentMan]

Florida derby is a match race, but I do think Mohaymen will beat Nyquist.

Mohaymen should be undefeated going into the KD. If so, he will be the big favorite on derby day. If Nyquist runs a good second, he will be 2nd choice.

I haven't seen the possible entrants for the Spiral yet, I'm assuming nothing spectacular will be running in there.

I hope Mor Spirit & Danzig Candy run super races in the SA derby, & run 1-2 to take money on KD day as well.

Destin should win his next race for Pletcher, which would make him 3 straight wins going into the KD. He's pointed to either the Wood or Bluegrass.

Shagaf is undefeated, 3 for 3, & will run in the Wood. I hope Shagaf doesn't run against Destin, want to see both Destin & Shagaf win their final prep races.

Cupid should beat the field in the Ark derby. His competitors are Whitmore & Suddenbreakingnews. Whitmore would be an interesting upset, but Cupid is clicking right now.

I don't see much competition in the Bluegrass if Pletcher decides to take Destin there.

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan

Destin should win his next race for Pletcher, which would make him 3 straight wins going into the KD. He's pointed to either the Wood or Bluegrass.

I think that horse will be vulnerable at 9F. We also don't know if he's a horse for the Tampa course or something better. I'd probably take Zulu over him assuming both run same prep. Not a fan of the Storm Cat/Northern Dancer sire line either.

[SecretAgentMan]

Kentucky Derby Future Wager Pool 4


ML Odds

1 American Pioneer 50-1
2 Cherry Wine 20-1
3 Creator 30-1
4 Cupid 10-1
5 Danzing Candy 12-1
6 Dazzling Gem 50-1
7 Destin 12-1
8 Exaggerator 20-1
9 Flexibility 50-1
10 Gun Runner 15-1
11 Lani 50-1
12 Matt King Coal 50-1
13 Mo Tom 15-1
14 Mohaymen 7-2
15 Mor Spirit 12-1
16 Nyquist 8-1
17 Outwork 30-1
18 Shagaf 30-1
19 Suddenbreakingnews 30-1
20 Swipe 30-1
21 Tom's Ready 20-1
22 Whitmore 20-1
23 Zulu 30-1
24 mutuel field (all others) 10-1

[f2tornado]

I'll put $10 on Lani if he's close to the 50-1 ML. Dubai curse or not, breeding on that one is filthy good making for a reasonable recreation bet.

[SecretAgentMan]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

I'll put $10 on Lani if he's close to the 50-1 ML. Dubai curse or not, breeding on that one is filthy good making for a reasonable recreation bet.

I'm gonna put $25 on him just bbecausei.played Mubtaahijlast year & would be pissed if he won.

Mo Tom should be 30-1 15-1 is a joke! I knew all the hype & excuses would bring low odds.

[Bennie]

Lots of questions on the futures pool for me. Like horses listed who have very few points and will be running in races against horses who are already far ahead in the point standings and will have to run their best just to finish in the money. Like Suddenbreaking to run in the Arkansas against the likes of Cupid, Destin and Whitmore and Flexibilty to run in the Wood or Bluegrass against the likes of Zulu, Outwork, Laoban and Shagaf. And why is Swipe still here? Has to come back and win a big race just to make it to the Derby
Weak field so far beyer wise as I believe only 3 horse have scored 100 and at least 3 have not even broken 90. Still time for a few to jump up in the next three weekends but from this pool, if they ran today, I could only use 4 horses tops.

[olddaddy]

Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan

Mo Tom should be 30-1 15-1 is a joke! I knew all the hype & excuses would bring low odds.

Same line as gun runner, which is crazy.

[SecretAgentMan]

Originally Posted by olddaddy

Same line as gun runner, which is crazy.

Exactly!

[ultracapper]

If Nyquist finishes close to, or beats Mohaymen, you'll get better than 7/2 on Mohaymen on race day. That is a low future number with a prep still to go. On the other hand, if Nyquist proves to be legitimate competition for Mohaymen, that 8-1 in pool 4 will look rather juicy.