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02-07-2016, 03:24 PM
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Laptop Virgin
I just purchased my 1st laptop,be arriving in a couple days I have a few questions
1)Should I shut windows down first then power of the laptop or set it to shut down and power off when I close the lid
2) Should I invest in a wireless mouse
3)I'll be using on my desk near a power source Should I always used it plugged in or use it off the battery as well?
Thnx
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02-07-2016, 04:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: west view, pa. now Lancaster, Ca.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by upthecreek
I just purchased my 1st laptop,be arriv
ing in a couple days I have a few questions
1)Should I shut windows down first then power of the laptop or set it to shut down and power off when I close the lid
2) Should I invest in a wireless mouse
3)I'll be using on my desk near a power source Should I always used it plugged in or use it off the battery as well?
Thnx
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1) i hibernate mine
2)yes
3)i have mine plugged in all the time. My wife's also. but my tablet plugged in when its low.
i also have a 20" monitor plugged in along with a printer, head phones, and a keyboard. so my lap top is closed and just carries the internet
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02-07-2016, 08:05 PM
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Librocubicularist
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Location: Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by upthecreek
I just purchased my 1st laptop,be arriving in a couple days I have a few questions
1)Should I shut windows down first then power of the laptop or set it to shut down and power off when I close the lid
2) Should I invest in a wireless mouse
3)I'll be using on my desk near a power source Should I always used it plugged in or use it off the battery as well?
Thnx
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1) I have no opinion either way.
2) Definitely.
3) I think it's best to never run the battery completely down so I always connect mine to a power source if possible. There are times when there is no power source or it's inconvenient.
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02-07-2016, 09:04 PM
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crusty old guy
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Snarkytown USA
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1) If you're going to shut down, then yes, Windows first then power off.
2) If you are used to a mouse then yes; otherwise use the touchpad.
3) Read the owner's manual for best practice. Read this as well: Laptop Battery Info
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02-07-2016, 10:39 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 16,911
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Quote:
1) i hibernate mine
2)yes
3)i have mine plugged in all the time. My wife's also. but my tablet plugged in when its low.
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My precise answers match these.
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02-08-2016, 12:10 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Los Angeles
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Don't leave your laptop "on" all of the time.
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02-08-2016, 06:04 AM
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Thanks guys!
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02-08-2016, 10:53 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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UTC, you asked about a "wireless mouse", so I will give you my take on a really good one...
I have a Logitech M705, which came bundled with the MK700/MK710 wireless keyboard set, which by the way is a great keyboard as well...
They are both Bluetooth/wireless...
More importantly tho, the M705 Mouse is available separately...
My wife has one for her laptop as well...She tried the smaller laptop-style mice, but they didn't cut it...
The M705 can be programmed thru the software in different ways, and it's ergonomics is second to none, imo...
Has great forward and back buttons that are a breeze to use, and has nice scrolling features...
It comes with a miniature dongle that plugs in unobtrusively in any usb 2 or 3 port...
And, the batteries last forever, it seems....It shuts down automatically when not in use after awhile...
I have tried other Bluetooth mice, this one is my keeper..
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02-08-2016, 01:56 PM
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broken-down horseplayer
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Portland, OR area
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I've always needed to use a mouse with a laptop. Much, much faster than trying to use the touchpad or steering button in the middle of the keypad.
Whenever I buy a new battery powered device, I also like to run it through several cycles of almost completely depleting the charge, and then charging it back up to 100%. I read somewhere that this prolonged the life of the battery and allowed it to hold a somewhat larger charge. Not sure if that's true or not, but it's not much effort to do it up front. My first couple of laptops did have battery issues after a few years, with my Dell going from 97% to 21% to OFF within a few minutes if I unplugged the power cord.
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02-08-2016, 02:15 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 860
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Since yours is brand new it may be different than my 4+ year old Toshiba laptop. But as far as the battery, it should not be left plugged in when the charge reaches 100%. But now yours may be different and not cause any harm to the battery if left in. I take mine out at about 85-90% charge and just use the power cord.
Would like to know if yours can be safely left in all the time? I was looking at one the other day in the store and the battery seemed locked in forever..
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02-08-2016, 03:08 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,956
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From reputable source
There is nothing wrong with using a laptop with the battery unplugged, but it is completely useless (except of course if you have some specific reason for removing the battery, like it being dead, lending it to a friend, you want to make your laptop lighter, etc.)
I am sorry but the "battery usage practices" you follow are myths. Some of those practices are and always have been simply false information. Some of them were helpful ten years ago with Ni-MH batteries but are totally useless or even harmful on modern lithium-based batteries.
Keeping the battery plugged, or unplugged, or whatever is useless
Keeping the charged battery in with the AC adapted plugged is perfectly fine. With modern chargers and control electronics, it amounts to the exactly the same thing as storing it charged separately from the computer.
Incomplete charge and discharges are perfectly fine. They are actually better for the batteries than full charge/discharge cycles.
Totally charging the battery is useless
Completely discharging the battery should be avoided if possible. Actually, totally discharging the battery cells is extremely harmful to the battery and can cause severe and irreversible capacity loss, but the control electronics in batteries won't let you do that, they will stop the power output before the battery is completely discharged precisely to avoid that problem. (On the other hand, if you discharge a battery then store it empty for an extended period of time, then the problem may manifest and damage your battery.)
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02-08-2016, 03:19 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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By the way
The above wasn't directed at anybody here It was an answer to a similar question in a how to forum! Lol I didn't want anybody to get the wrong idea
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02-08-2016, 03:31 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Virginia
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UPthecreek... If I understand you correctly, there is no harm in leaving a fully charged battery plugged in?
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02-08-2016, 03:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flysofree
UPthecreek... If I understand you correctly, there is no harm in leaving a fully charged battery plugged in?
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That's what I think the so called expert is saying It doesn't hurt lithium batteries I'd like to hear others opinions
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02-08-2016, 04:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by upthecreek
That's what I think the so called expert is saying It doesn't hurt lithium batteries I'd like to hear others opinions
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My wife has a lithium-ion battery equipped laptop, and she has left in plugged IN and ON for the past 4years....No glitches so far..
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