Derby Future Pool 1

[davew]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

He's not hated, this is a who's going to win the derby thread, he's not winning any ky derbies, it's not personal towards the horse, he's just not a derby horse, he's winning now due to just developing faster than a lot of horses, the good ones will catch up to him in due time.

This is a what will the ML odds for pool one be - not what Stillrildup's probability line is.

when does the first pool open? later this month?

I wonder if they will list Songbird -
I feel Nyquist will have a ML near 10/1

[PowerUpPaynter]

i think its this week.

[PowerUpPaynter]

Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter

i think its this week.

nope, im wrong. next week 11/27-11/30

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter

Good Day,

Lets talk some future pool. What you think Nyquist will open at?

here are a few predictions

Field 3/5
Nyquist 12/1
Moheyman 15/1
Swipe 20/1
Greenpointcrusader 30/1
Brody's Cause 30/1
Exaggerator 30/1
Cocked And Loaded 35/1
Mor Spirit 40/1
Sail Ahoy 40/1
Amis Gizmo 50/1
Gift Box 50/1
Unbridled Outlaw 50/1
Whitmore 50/1

Here's what you can get currently through the Wynn future odds book:

15-1 Nyquist 12/1
30-1 Mohayman 15/1
20-1 Swipe 20/1
60-1 Greenpointcrusader 30/1
25-1 Brody's Cause 30/1
40-1 Exaggerator 30/1
85-1 Cocked And Loaded 35/1
30-1 Mor Spirit 40/1
35-1 Sail Ahoy 40/1
125-1 Amis Gizmo 50/1
75-1 Gift Box 50/1
150-1 Unbridled Outlaw 50/1
N/L Whitmore 50/1

[egreen]

The first pool this year is the new sire bet, not individual horses as in the past 2 years. That just didn't work in November.

[tanner12oz]

Originally Posted by egreen

The first pool this year is the new sire bet, not individual horses as in the past 2 years. That just didn't work in November.

yeah this is much better idea lol

[PowerUpPaynter]

Originally Posted by tanner12oz

yeah this is much better idea lol

wait what? no individual horse bets on the first pool? or two separate pools?

[davew]

Originally Posted by egreen

The first pool this year is the new sire bet, not individual horses as in the past 2 years. That just didn't work in November.

they might as well have the first letter of winning horses name....

[egreen]

No individual horses in pool 1, only sires. CD finally realized how absurd it was to only offer 23 horses in November. Given marketing costs and the split with horsemen and wagering providers, they may have broken even with this, but I suspect CD lost a little money in each year.

[tanner12oz]

I crushed the first pool ..didnt play last year. Any angles to speak of with this goofy sire bet? I imagine recent sires will get alot of play, previous derby winners

[Stillriledup]

I lowered exaggerator in OPs thread.

Ya welcome.

[letswastemoney]

I don't expect too much from the Breeders' Cup Juvenile group. They just seem like the kind of horses that are very similar to each other and will never stand out too much...although Exaggerator ran well at Delta Downs.

Some fresh faces will emerge soon.

[PowerUpPaynter]

2016 Derby Future Wager Pool 1 (Thursday-Sunday)
Morning line odds by Mike Battaglia
1. Airoforce 20-1
2. Annual Report 30-1
3. Brody's Cause 15-1
4. Cocked and Loaded 30-1
5. Conquest Big E 50-1
6. Drefong 30-1
7. Exaggerator 30-1
8. Flexibility 30-1
9. Gift Box 30-1
10. Greenpointcrusader 30-1
11. Gun Runner 30-1
12. Matt King Coal 20-1
13. Mohaymen 15-1
14. Mor Spirit 20-1
15. Nyquist 10-1
16. Rated R Superstar 50-1
17. Riker 30-1
18. Sail Ahoy 30-1
19. Sunny Ridge 50-1
20. Swipe 15-1
21. Synchrony 30-1
22. Toews On Ice 30-1
23. Unbridled Outlaw 30-1
24. Mutuel Field (All Others) 7-5


2016 Derby Sire Future Wager Pool 1 (Thursday-Sunday)
1. Awesome Again 50-1
2. Bernardini 30-1
3. Blame 30-1
4. Candy Ride 30-1
5. Curlin 30-1
6. Distorted Humor 20-1
7. Eskendereya 30-1
8. Ghostzapper 30-1
9. Giant's Causeway 20-1
10. Hard Spun 30-1
11. Harlan's Holiday 30-1
12. Kitten's Joy 30-1
13. Malibu Moon 20-1
14. Medaglia D'Oro 20-1
15. Pioneerof the Nile 15-1
16. Scat Daddy 30-1
17. Street Sense 30-1
18. Super Saver 50-1
19. Tapit 15-1
20. Tiznow 20-1
21. Unbridled's Song 20-1
22. Uncle Mo 20-1
23. War Front 20-1
24. All Other Sires 1-1

[PowerUpPaynter]

Nyquist 10-1, Unclie Mo 20-1 hmmm

[tanner12oz]

Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter

2016 Derby Future Wager Pool 1 (Thursday-Sunday)
Morning line odds by Mike Battaglia
1. Airoforce 20-1
2. Annual Report 30-1
3. Brody's Cause 15-1
4. Cocked and Loaded 30-1
5. Conquest Big E 50-1
6. Drefong 30-1
7. Exaggerator 30-1
8. Flexibility 30-1
9. Gift Box 30-1
10. Greenpointcrusader 30-1
11. Gun Runner 30-1
12. Matt King Coal 20-1
13. Mohaymen 15-1
14. Mor Spirit 20-1
15. Nyquist 10-1
16. Rated R Superstar 50-1
17. Riker 30-1
18. Sail Ahoy 30-1
19. Sunny Ridge 50-1
20. Swipe 15-1
21. Synchrony 30-1
22. Toews On Ice 30-1
23. Unbridled Outlaw 30-1
24. Mutuel Field (All Others) 7-5


2016 Derby Sire Future Wager Pool 1 (Thursday-Sunday)
1. Awesome Again 50-1
2. Bernardini 30-1
3. Blame 30-1
4. Candy Ride 30-1
5. Curlin 30-1
6. Distorted Humor 20-1
7. Eskendereya 30-1
8. Ghostzapper 30-1
9. Giant's Causeway 20-1
10. Hard Spun 30-1
11. Harlan's Holiday 30-1
12. Kitten's Joy 30-1
13. Malibu Moon 20-1
14. Medaglia D'Oro 20-1
15. Pioneerof the Nile 15-1
16. Scat Daddy 30-1
17. Street Sense 30-1
18. Super Saver 50-1
19. Tapit 15-1
20. Tiznow 20-1
21. Unbridled's Song 20-1
22. Uncle Mo 20-1
23. War Front 20-1
24. All Other Sires 1-1

lot of young sires on the list