Getting a Filly to the Derby?

[cj]

Originally Posted by iceknight

thanks CJ.
It's always exciting to see some interesting twists in the run up to the derby and if one of the strong fillies runs in any of the big preps and wins or comes 2nd, that should give them a chance to run the derby. Does the 3lb allowance help much?

I wouldn't say much, but a little.

[pondman]

Originally Posted by PowerUpPaynter

Good Day,

Songbird was very impressive. Was wondering has the derby pts system killed the idea of a filly in the derby? The decision would have to be made very early to put her on the road to the derby and race in derby pts races.

She ran a full second faster then Nyquist.

The fillies that are good enough, eventually run against the boys. Winning Colors won the SA derby.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

The colts don't look especially exciting, but my guess is that the gap is not nearly as large as the difference between the times between of the two BC races. Nyquist lost 94 feet relative to Riker in his race and quite a few others also lost of ton of ground the way the race was run. I'm not a literal ground guy, but that's a LOT of ground.

On top of that, it's not unusual for the fillies to be a little ahead of the colts in their development at 2. Then the colts slowly catch up. So if the usual gap is 8 Beyer points or so, it's less than that at 2.

I thought Nyquist overcame a very wide post while racing with the flow of the race vs a weak group.

I also think that the BC Juvenile is not always full of our Triple Crown horses. Nyquist is basically at that level and does project forward, and maybe some others will find their stride, but we will see new faces bringing their own impressive performances into the 2016 Triple Crown series.