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View Poll Results: Would you pay for Pace Makes the Race @ International Racetracks? How Much?
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YES
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NO
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70.83% |
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10-01-2015, 12:12 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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Would you buy Pace Software of Hong Kong & others?
Sartin-type numbers for Hong Kong and any others possible?
Yes/No and:
How much would you fork over?
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10-01-2015, 12:17 AM
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#2
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Yes. $200, and double that for database query capability.
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10-01-2015, 01:05 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
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Mr. XXX,
Respectfully, you'd have to add a couple of zeroes on the end and pay up front in order to get me interested.
Dave
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10-01-2015, 01:09 AM
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To my knowledge, there is no data base that details the exact running times and positions at various points of call. I'm not saying these races can't be handicapped, but not in the same way that US races are. A 15lb difference in weights is not uncommon and with large fields post positions are frequently critical. Also the class structure is someone different. It's a different ball game.
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10-01-2015, 01:15 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Baton Rouge, La
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You could use Trakus charts to make the points of calls
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10-01-2015, 10:29 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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maybe
I voted no because the HJC pace figures are garbage (maybe on purpose) and they don't have sectionals pace figs, which blows my mind because it's all late charging stuff there. All one should need to know is.
1. where does the horse normally fit at the turn from home (rank in the pack/ with respect to class)
2. Late pace fig
In addition:
Also their class ratings are useless. Class 2 -3, 3-4. there's no difference. Kinda like the Dog ratings below AA.
I have to manual average class with respect to the highest class attained to achieve point #1.
Last edited by ebcorde; 10-01-2015 at 10:31 AM.
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10-01-2015, 11:11 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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Originally Posted by woodbinepmi
You could use Trakus charts to make the points of calls
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There's Trakus for Hkg?
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10-01-2015, 12:07 PM
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Location: Baton Rouge, La
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Originally Posted by cbp
There's Trakus for Hkg?
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You can get them off of the Trakus website, you do have to get an account with them to access them.
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10-01-2015, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by woodbinepmi
You can get them off of the Trakus website, you do have to get an account with them to access them.
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Can you get an account if not employees in the industry?
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10-01-2015, 03:23 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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Yep, I knew this.
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Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
Mr. XXX,
Respectfully, you'd have to add a couple of zeroes on the end and pay up front in order to get me interested.
Dave
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I know, like in Dirty Dancing,"You're out of my league".
I was hoping 100 Pace readers would want this.
And to everyone else, thank you for your on point replies.
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10-01-2015, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cbp
Can you get an account if not employees in the industry?
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Call them and ask them nicely, I don't see why they wouldn't. The product is for the public to use.
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10-01-2015, 08:57 PM
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Location: NY
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I wouldn't waste my time or money on any handicapping methodology for the racing at Hong Kong. When you finally come to the realization that you're an outsider playing an insider's game you'll understand why handicapping is futile. There are much better ways to make this game fun and profitable! 
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10-01-2015, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitro
I wouldn't waste my time or money on any handicapping methodology for the racing at Hong Kong. When you finally come to the realization that you're an outsider playing an insider's game you'll understand why handicapping is futile. There are much better ways to make this game fun and profitable! |
I was waiting for you to chime in.
Are you then referring to something along the lines of Kinky Handicapping?
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10-01-2015, 09:55 PM
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Location: NY
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Originally Posted by Mr.XXX
I was waiting for you to chime in.
Are you then referring to something along the lines of Kinky Handicapping?
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I’m not sure if you’ve noticed, but other then the Selection forum I’ve purposely been avoiding all of the other forums for many reasons. I’ve found that other then a few laughs here and there, the commentary is really just geared for those who are caught up in run of mill handicapping. I just find it too distracting.
I’m not sure what you mean by “Kinky Handicapping”. My personal method of following the money (and I mean BIG money at HK!) might be considered a bit kinky by a typical handicapper, but there’s no handicapping involved. It takes me all of 10 minutes to assimilate the best selections in each race and another minute or so to play them the way I want.
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10-02-2015, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Nitro
I’m not sure if you’ve noticed, but other then the Selection forum I’ve purposely been avoiding all of the other forums for many reasons. I’ve found that other then a few laughs here and there, the commentary is really just geared for those who are caught up in run of mill handicapping. I just find it too distracting.
I’m not sure what you mean by “Kinky Handicapping”. My personal method of following the money (and I mean BIG money at HK!) might be considered a bit kinky by a typical handicapper, but there’s no handicapping involved. It takes me all of 10 minutes to assimilate the best selections in each race and another minute or so to play them the way I want.
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I hear you, folks grow older but not...
I was thinking the trainer coups of Mark Cramer.
I infer then you mean the Tote, follow the money?
Bless your ten minutes or less, I'm a coalminer by comparison.
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