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Old 08-29-2015, 06:09 PM   #31
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Isn't it graveyard of favorites? Or is it both now?
I thought it was Graveyard of Favorites and Breakfast of Champions.
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:10 PM   #32
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Race 6 went 24 473 (On a dull outside favoring track)

AP went 241 481 on a souped up track (after race 8).

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No EXCUSE AP !!!!! HA HA HA

Sorry to act like a child but I love this moment.
You're doing it again. You were the one who said that not even you could find a reason to bet against AP this race.
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:12 PM   #33
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I'm with you here. Whining about Lezcano - who actually rode to win and gave us a genuine horse race for once - was nauseating to listen to.
Victor guzzled him early..Lezcano did the right thing and pounced on him.
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:13 PM   #34
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Race 6 went 24 473 (On a dull outside favoring track)

AP went 241 481 on a souped up track (after race 8).

Just saying

No EXCUSE AP !!!!! HA HA HA

Sorry to act like a child but I love this moment.
You are acting like a child. let's see Keen Ice win another GR 1 . no disgrace in Pharoah"s loss , especially at Saratoga for the frequent flyer . great horses get beat . Can you tellme another great race Onion won after the Whitney !
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:13 PM   #35
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You're doing it again. You were the one who said that not even you could find a reason to bet against AP this race.
Yes, which makes it more sweet when he lost.

I WAS THE ONE being riddled on here for critiquing how dressed up his wins were in the PREAKNESS and BELMONT.

I am allowed to laugh right now and if it violates etiquette, I just don't care


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Old 08-29-2015, 06:16 PM   #36
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You are acting like a child. let's see Keen Ice win another GR 1 . no disgrace in Pharoah"s loss , especially at Saratoga for the frequent flyer . great horses get beat . Can you tellme another great race Onion won after the Whitney !
I don't care. He was treated like the second coming of GOD and Secretariat.

He lost with no excuse.

I don't want to hear any BUTS OR IFS or blah blah blah.

HE LOST and he's no superhorse.

Just another good horse.
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:17 PM   #37
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Better horse? Even I'm not silly enough to say Keen Ice is a better horse. Better today, obviously...but not a better horse.
Very good handicapping, PA. It was a fine race. They are ALL capable of loss. I hope the Zayats can cope.

Don't know when I've seen a crowd here like todays.
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:18 PM   #38
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Victor guzzled him early..Lezcano did the right thing and pounced on him.
He's only been tested (kinda, once, in the Derby) and was desperate to outslow a weak contender.

I'm glad he was challenged today. Prove your a champion.

He failed.

Thank you Lezcano for having the balls to make it a race.

And before anyone says Lezcano committed suicide, no he didn't. Suicide would've been an attack from the gate or into the CT. They went a soft 48 1.
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:19 PM   #39
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I don't care. He was treated like the second coming of GOD and Secretariat.

He lost with no excuse.

I don't want to hear any BUTS OR IFS or blah blah blah.

HE LOST and he's no superhorse.

Just another good horse.
Super horses lose too. He was best today, he lost. Big deal. Your act today is an old one. You're better than that.
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:20 PM   #40
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:22 PM   #41
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Another example of how perfect trips lead to horses being overbet. Nobody would question that American Pharoah should've been odds on, but 1-4? Really? Frosted ran a pretty big race against him, trying to close on a slow pace in the Belmont. And Keen Ice was in good form. 17-1? Wish I could say I had it as he probably should've been about half that; no higher than 10-1.
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:22 PM   #42
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I don't care. He was treated like the second coming of GOD and Secretariat.

He lost with no excuse.

I don't want to hear any BUTS OR IFS or blah blah blah.

HE LOST and he's no superhorse.

Just another good horse.
I disagree. he was dead game to turn back Frosted.

The race just set up for KI. AP has nothing to be ashamed of.
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:22 PM   #43
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If he runs in the classic, what do you think his odd's will be? Any chance at even money now?
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:23 PM   #44
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Zayat got What he deserved.Maybe now he'll learn to let the trainer call the shots not his ego.
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Old 08-29-2015, 06:24 PM   #45
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Super horses lose too. He was best today, he lost. Big deal. Your act today is an old one. You're better than that.
I'm flying high on testosterone. I have to admit that felt good. Vindication in a way.

Yes, superhorses lose. But after getting ripped for critiquing the great AP, I feel there is some room for saying I told you so's to people.

I got it out, it felt goooood.


On that note. I will shut up. Your reprimand has been noted CJ.
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