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08-26-2015, 09:05 AM
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If Staying With Windows 7?
Say I don't do the upgrade to Windows 10 (ever). In 4 years Microsoft stops support for Windows 7. If I keep a couple of anti virus programs running plus a firewall would I still be protected when accessing the internet? Or in a high risk because of not upgrading to W10 with their patches or whatever updates or called?
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08-26-2015, 09:46 AM
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Top Horse Analytics
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Originally Posted by Flysofree
Say I don't do the upgrade to Windows 10 (ever). In 4 years Microsoft stops support for Windows 7. If I keep a couple of anti virus programs running plus a firewall would I still be protected when accessing the internet? Or in a high risk because of not upgrading to W10 with their patches or whatever updates or called?
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"If" Microsoft cuts off support of W7 in 4 years, then your W7 system will not receive their patches, security and otherwise. The "otherwise" may not be a big deal but the security patches might be over time. You could always disconnect from the Internet if you have applications that don't require it. All of this may become moot if Microsoft has the same issue with W7 as they had with phasing out XP, hence the "If" at the beginning.
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08-26-2015, 02:25 PM
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I'm still running XP; everything a little slower, and sometimes I have to switch between browsers, but I'm still viable. How long do I have, doctor?
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08-26-2015, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike
I'm still running XP; everything a little slower, and sometimes I have to switch between browsers, but I'm still viable. How long do I have, doctor?
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My guess, but it's the reason I asked, is that if you are running a good A/V plus have a good firewall....stay away from questionable website (porn type things) you should be safe. I don't understand why it's slower, unless you have some malware or some setting is causing... I admit to knowing little about computer safety.
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08-26-2015, 06:27 PM
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Yeah, that's my take on it too. The slowdown probably more a function of available memory than the OS.
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08-26-2015, 10:22 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike
Yeah, that's my take on it too. The slowdown probably more a function of available memory than the OS.
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That is my problem on XP.
I have a W7 used machine, but still in the box.
Maybe this weekend.
I would suggest anyone going to W10 to carefully read the terms of use.
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"We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to protect our customers or enforce the terms governing the use of the services."
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http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...tect-yourself/
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08-27-2015, 12:01 AM
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Thanks for the link, Tom. I haven't installed W10 but bookmarked this for the day I do.
Good stuff.
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08-27-2015, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by _______
Thanks for the link, Tom. I haven't installed W10 but bookmarked this for the day I do.
Good stuff.
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Tom and I don't always agree, but he does post some very helpful information and this is one. Thanks Tom! For me, after reading on the Microsoft Community pages of the problems people are experiencing with the download, I think it may be easier simply to buy a new computer in 4 years and forget the free upgrade. The problems range from loosing Wi-Fi connections to no sound. They go on and on, I can't even begin to list them all. I know there are plenty of people that is has worked ok, but if you're happy with what you have now, then why risk a problem. I hate the idea of Cortana, but am sure young folks are giddy happy with that.
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08-27-2015, 08:55 AM
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I installed windows 10 yesterday. So far everything is as good as it was under windows 8.2 if not better. It is certainly a lot better than windows 7.
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08-27-2015, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Flysofree
....I think it may be easier simply to buy a new computer in 4 years and forget the free upgrade..... if you're happy with what you have now, then why risk a problem.
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Exactly my thinking. I couldn't have said it better.
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08-27-2015, 11:26 AM
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I have had no real issues with Windows 10 except I do not like the File Manager changes (why did they put favorites into a separate pane?) and I have not found a way to delete a mistyped user name from the Edge browser cache without clearing nearly everything.
However, that being said, I should forewarn anyone who directs OneDrive to removable media that Microsoft no longer likes us doing that. When I installed Windows 10, it redirected my OneDrive local store from my Micro SD Card back to my C: drive (without any indication). I mentioned that my machine was taking longer to boot and running somewhat hot and that is the reason; it was rebuilding my entire OneDrive file store over again on my system drive. It was not a case of simply redirecting OneDrive back to my Micro SD Card; attempting that just resulted in error messages. There are a couple of ways of working around this, but they are really not user friendly.
I also agree that by default, Microsoft does seem to gather a lot of information that does not seem like any of their business, but most of us have given this information to others (like Google) in the past, so I am not quite sure why this is news to so many reporting websites. The anti-piracy spying is interesting. I have digitized some of my old LPs and I wonder if those will in any way look like pirated music. Likewise, I have digitized movies from DVDs that I have purchased for watching on my phone.
For some alternate views of this privacy intrusion, you could look at these articles:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/23/91...rivacy-and-you
http://www.techinsider.io/why-window...d-games-2015-8
I also found this to be a useful starting point for more general information:
https://www.thurrott.com/windows/win...-to-windows-10
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08-27-2015, 07:51 PM
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crusty old guy
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
It is certainly a lot better than windows 7.
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Um...no.
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08-27-2015, 08:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flysofree
... after reading on the Microsoft Community pages of the problems people are experiencing with the download, I think it may be easier simply to buy a new computer in 4 years and forget the free upgrade. The problems range from loosing Wi-Fi connections to no sound. They go on and on, I can't even begin to list them all. I know there are plenty of people that is has worked ok, but if you're happy with what you have now, then why risk a problem. I hate the idea of Cortana, but am sure young folks are giddy happy with that.
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Cotana was the big draw for me to upgrade but, as you've mentioned with all the problems I may not upgrade until I buy a new computer.
When Win10 first became available a couple of people mentioned they upgraded, I wish they would provide an update. It's been about a month. Actually, I haven't seen very many posts (if any) elsewhere by them.
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08-27-2015, 09:22 PM
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You might try going to the Microsoft website and look around. I think it's simply: www.microsoft.com
Unless you have one of the special Windows 7 or Windows 8 models I thought everyone got the upgrade notice. Maybe you have updates turned off on your computer... Sorry I can't help more.
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08-27-2015, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by headhawg
Um...no.
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My guess is that the younger one is the more happy they are about Windows 10. I know 2 other seniors that downloaded Windows 10 and came back..to Windows 7.
You and I agree !
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