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06-19-2015, 10:43 AM
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American Pharoah's next start...
http://www.courier-journal.com/story...race/28976455/
Now Saratoga in the lead after last Saturday the family said Monmouth.... hmm
Think they just trying to get more money out of Monmouth?
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06-19-2015, 10:48 AM
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Travers will always look better on the resume...not that he needs padding at this point.
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06-19-2015, 10:58 AM
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Travers will always look better on the resume...not that he needs padding at this point.
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That subjective... maybe in 1970 but better horses have won the Haskell this Millenium. Plus once you add Triple Crown to the resume then the resume is made.
I think its just a ploy to get more money out of Monmouth. Which is a smart business move by smart business people. 6 days ago we heard Zayatt say "MONMOUTH!!!!!"
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06-19-2015, 11:02 AM
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Yesterday he tweeted Saratoga!
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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06-19-2015, 11:10 AM
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Haskell is a top race of course but Travers is a notch higher
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06-19-2015, 11:16 AM
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Quote:
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Haskell is a top race of course but Travers is a notch higher
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Traditionally yes, recently no
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06-19-2015, 11:16 AM
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I was at Monmouth last Friday and asked about Haskell tickets. Was told they were sold out. I'll bet there will be some available on stubhub soon.
I guess Monmouth just doesn't have the money to entice him to run there. No slots supplements.
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06-19-2015, 11:27 AM
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wonder when we get a definitive answer on his next start
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06-19-2015, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nads1420
Traditionally yes, recently no
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Of course.. During the last years, we have seem some top three year olds running at Monmouth and surely it is a a top race.. Still, Travers has the heavier name when it comes to history and tradition
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06-19-2015, 11:47 AM
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The Haskell is a great race, BUT the Travers is the Haskell on steroids!! Ha ha
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06-19-2015, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BELMONT 6-6-09
The Haskell is a great race, BUT the Travers is the Haskell on steroids!! Ha ha
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To me there is no comparison in terms of prestige, and the Travers is usually a tougher race to win....plus although Monmouth's track surface seems to be pretty good so far this year, it has been speed favoring the past couple of years and Saratoga is no longer an easy track for speed horses, it's actually a tiring track now.
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06-19-2015, 12:49 PM
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If i could put money on it it still bet he winds up at Monmouth... How does it go over the course of 6 days from "MONMOUTH!!!!!!" to saratoga is " in the lead" i think its just a good business move by obviously very smart business people. and furthermore just read its the Jim Dandy not the Travers... yet. so if thats the case of course it makes more sense to go Haskell then Travers which would just be awesome. Jim Dandy woopy... vs your home state. c'mon in not buying it
Last edited by nads1420; 06-19-2015 at 12:52 PM.
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06-19-2015, 12:49 PM
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Quote:
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That subjective...
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There really is nothing subjective about it...the Travers has always been held in much higher esteem than the Haskell.
And I'm not so sure about your argument concerning "This millennium..."
There's been some pretty damn nice horses too that have won the Travers from 2000 onward (or 2001 depending on your definition of millennium).
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06-19-2015, 12:52 PM
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I understand the business aspects $$$$$, but when you have the BEST, you race in the BEST RACE, the Travers stakes, the oldest race in the country! It is not called the Midsummer Derby for nothing. Just my opinion.
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06-19-2015, 12:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BELMONT 6-6-09
I understand the business aspects $$$$$, but when you have the BEST, you race in the BEST RACE, the Travers stakes, the oldest race in the country! It is not called the Midsummer Derby for nothing. Just my opinion.
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true but its not 1950 anymore and why wouldnt you race in your home state then go to Travers
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