Shared Belief Diagnosed With Hip Fracture

[chadk66]

any fracture to a major bone like that is not minor

[Tom]

HOY or nickel claimer.....Mike made the right call.
As bettors, that is the risk we take when a living creature is part of our game.

[ILovetheInner]

Originally Posted by Tom

HOY or nickel claimer.....Mike made the right call.
As bettors, that is the risk we take when a living creature is part of our game.

Wisely said.

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by cj

Heard them say on TVG he is out all of 2015, so that doesn't exactly sound minor.

I think they were listening to an owner who didn't know what he was talking about. Hollendorfer said later that the horse would be out 6-8 weeks, so that means he could be back by the Fall.

A hairline crack at the point of his hip is probably the safest place a horse could develop a crack. Regardless, it takes time for the crack to heal up. This is a minor injury in the grand scheme of things. He'll be back at 100% and relatively soon.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by Fager Fan

I think they were listening to an owner who didn't know what he was talking about. Hollendorfer said later that the horse would be out 6-8 weeks, so that means he could be back by the Fall.

A hairline crack at the point of his hip is probably the safest place a horse could develop a crack. Regardless, it takes time for the crack to heal up. This is a minor injury in the grand scheme of things. He'll be back at 100% and relatively soon.

This is the part I am curious about. I cannot imagine he could have much of a crack and kept running........ They should put up an X ray......show us. Why not break a little ground and be completely transparent. They have nothing to lose? In fact it's counter to what we are used to in this game. I am suspect of everything coming out of a trainers or owners mouth anymore.

not to downplay the effort......... he kept running and Smith was obviously right to pull him up.

[Brogan]

If you want to see the x-ray, buy into the horse. Otherwise, its not your business.

Now as far as what owners and trainers tell us? They aren't under oath, and have no real obligation to tell us anything, some things, or everything. We just have to make our own judgment on their veracity.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by Brogan

If you want to see the x-ray, buy into the horse. Otherwise, its not your business.

Now as far as what owners and trainers tell us? They aren't under oath, and have no real obligation to tell us anything, some things, or everything. We just have to make our own judgment on their veracity.

I guess we do the same thing when it comes to NFL players. And they get much more money bet on their game..........(s)

[chadk66]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

This is the part I am curious about. I cannot imagine he could have much of a crack and kept running........ They should put up an X ray......show us. Why not break a little ground and be completely transparent. They have nothing to lose? In fact it's counter to what we are used to in this game. I am suspect of everything coming out of a trainers or owners mouth anymore.

not to downplay the effort......... he kept running and Smith was obviously right to pull him up.

quite frankly it's none of our damn business.

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

This is the part I am curious about. I cannot imagine he could have much of a crack and kept running........ They should put up an X ray......show us. Why not break a little ground and be completely transparent. They have nothing to lose? In fact it's counter to what we are used to in this game. I am suspect of everything coming out of a trainers or owners mouth anymore.

not to downplay the effort......... he kept running and Smith was obviously right to pull him up.

What do you mean in that second sentence? Horses come out of races and works all the time with fractures, chips, etc.

And this one would be a curious one to question. They didn't fly across the country with the top horse in the country to pull him up, put him on the shelf for 2 months, all for..... what, some kind of inexplicable betting coup? Hollendorfer put his life savings down on Moreno, even though he lost more when SB lost?

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by Fager Fan

What do you mean in that second sentence? Horses come out of races and works all the time with fractures, chips, etc.

And this one would be a curious one to question. They didn't fly across the country with the top horse in the country to pull him up, put him on the shelf for 2 months, all for..... what, some kind of inexplicable betting coup? Hollendorfer put his life savings down on Moreno, even though he lost more when SB lost?

No I don't believe they flew cross country for some nefarious reason. But wouldn't it be nice if you stacked a ton of cash on the horse and you were left shaking your head after the race, you get to see the actual x ray? That would be breaking ground in my opine. Completely transparent. Like I said, breaking some ground in a way.

[Prairie Bettor]

Too bad there aren't pre-race warm-ups so the jickey could diagnose before bettors money is on the line...

[chadk66]

Originally Posted by Prairie Bettor

Too bad there aren't pre-race warm-ups so the jickey could diagnose before bettors money is on the line...

there is

[Brogan]

Originally Posted by Prairie Bettor

Too bad there aren't pre-race warm-ups so the jickey could diagnose before bettors money is on the line...

Maybe they could come up with a way that the betting public could get a look at the horses before they go on the track too.

[Rex Phinney]

Man lots of sour grapes in hear I think. The horse obviously got hurt, these things happen.

Sounds like some of you would want a refund if Tom Brady turned an ankle during a game too.

Anyone betting on SB at that price IMO deserved to lose their money anyway. That was a race to keep your hands in your pockets if I ever saw one.

[bks]

This is the part I am curious about. I cannot imagine he could have much of a crack and kept running........ They should put up an X ray......show us.

Didn't you see it, Ralph? They posted it on a web site right next to Obama's birth certificate.

The horse is a gelding. His value is exclusively on the race track. There are zero plausible scenarios under which it makes sense to tank a $1.5M race, and then sit out another 2-3 months of racing during which another million or two might have been earned while the owners sit under a shaded canopy at Del Mar or Saratoga.