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Old 04-15-2015, 06:53 PM   #46
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I think we're forgettign the most important here, KD speed pars.



I don't understand what you mean?
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:10 PM   #47
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I don't understand what you mean?
I mean that last pace is not by itself an indicator, we must measure pars in 1st, 2nd calls, last pace and final speed.
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:22 PM   #48
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Here are the averages per horse, divided in 6 pics because of the weight.

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Old 04-15-2015, 07:23 PM   #49
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:25 PM   #50
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:27 PM   #51
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:29 PM   #52
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:31 PM   #53
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:34 PM   #54
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I've been analyzing this last night and my candidate is Dortmund. Obviously this is previous to post sorting.
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:59 PM   #55
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so every year one of those horses won the derby?

So then for that trend to stick one of these horses would have to win this derby?

International Star-----107
Danzig Moon-----------102
Carpe Diem------------101
Frosted-----------------101
Frammento-------------101
Stanford-----------------98
Keen Ice-----------------97
War Story---------------96
Intl Star (has over a 4.00 DI, 7.3/7.3 AWD) OUT of win
Danzing Moon (Maiden Win Only, John White's Stikes 3) OUT of win
Carpe Diem (8.3/7.2 AWD) OUT of win
Frammento (Maiden Win Only) OUT of win
Standford (Storm Cat blood, RAN BM) Out of win
Keen Ice (Maiden Win Only) Out of Win
War Story (Gelding, John White's Stikes 3) Out of Win

Gonna be chilly in Kentucky.

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Old 04-15-2015, 08:44 PM   #56
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Intl Star (has over a 4.00 DI, 7.3/7.3 AWD) OUT of win
Danzing Moon (Maiden Win Only, John White's Stikes 3) OUT of win
Carpe Diem (8.3/7.2 AWD) OUT of win
Frammento (Maiden Win Only) OUT of win
Standford (Storm Cat blood, RAN BM) Out of win
Keen Ice (Maiden Win Only) Out of Win
War Story (Gelding, John White's Stikes 3) Out of Win

Gonna be chilly in Kentucky.
International Star is worthy of a saver, 4.09, I mean so close and it's been done.
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Old 04-15-2015, 08:45 PM   #57
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Storm Cat in 44 Derby starts 0 wins, 2 place, 3 show. Even Todd Pletcher has a better record than that.
I'm not sure that stat means much. Didn't he sire Tabasco Cat? That horse won the Preakness and Belmont.
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Old 04-15-2015, 08:48 PM   #58
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I'm not sure that stat means much. Didn't he sire Tabasco Cat? That horse won the Preakness and Belmont.
And almost killed D.Wayne Lukas's son, as I remember......
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Old 04-15-2015, 09:05 PM   #59
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I'm not sure that stat means much. Didn't he sire Tabasco Cat? That horse won the Preakness and Belmont.


The stat is only for the KD......they don't run 20 horses in the Preakness or Belmont. Its a completely different race than any other race......
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