arkansas derbY: it's all about 1/9

[SecretAgentMan]

Originally Posted by Rex Phinney

I like Far Right. He gives me that warm and fuzzy feeling that he can handle 20 horse banging around for position and that he can come from the clouds to clean up if there is a pace meltdown. The break and traffic will be of no concern for him, if he gets Mike Smith for the Derby, I'm all over it.

Interesting horse......but losing by 8 lengths throws me off of him, & his win at 1 1/16 in 1:47 is pathetic. Pharaoh ran 1 1/8 in 1:48

[PaceMasterT]

Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan

Interesting horse......but losing by 8 lengths throws me off of him, & his win at 1 1/16 in 1:47 is pathetic. Pharaoh ran 1 1/8 in 1:48

Agree. This race set up for him perfectly from a pace/position standpoint and he couldn't even sniff AP.

[menifee]

Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan

Interesting horse......but losing by 8 lengths throws me off of him, & his win at 1 1/16 in 1:47 is pathetic. Pharaoh ran 1 1/8 in 1:48

The Sunland Derby is 1 1/8. He ran faster in terms of raw time than AP. Sunland Park is a speed trap though. Raw times don't mean much.

[Rex Phinney]

Originally Posted by PaceMasterT

Agree. This race set up for him perfectly from a pace/position standpoint and he couldn't even sniff AP.

How do you figure the race today setup perfectly for him? AP wasn't on the lead. He was stalking in a clear path and a perfect trip. Nothing about how the race setup was friendly to a closer. AP took it easy until go time so yes by the time Far Right showed up AP was long gone.

Nothing in the Derby is going to be as easy as these preps have been for these favorites. They are going to have to go faster for longer against a better field than any of them have faced to this point.

I'm not calling Far Right a lock, he'll be a long shot for good reason. I'm saying in a 10 furlong pace meltdown this horse could mop up the mess.

[MNslappy]

Timeform gave American Pharoah a 113

Pace
1/2 136
3/4 120
Fin 111

That puts him right with Dortmund and Firing Line for the highest figs so far in prep season.

[MNslappy]

Jay Privman says AP received a 105 beyer fig

[menifee]

Originally Posted by menifee

The Sunland Derby is 1 1/8. He ran faster in terms of raw time than AP. Sunland Park is a speed trap though. Raw times don't mean much.

Sorry you guys were talking about Far Right - I thought you were talking about Firing Line.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

He looks better than Bernardini.

This could be a triple crown, with good health, and some racing luck.

***GROWL***

[iceknight]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

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haha good one!
Just reposting for fun
https://youtu.be/ouD4tNCONR4?t=6m54s

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