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02-10-2015, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NarrowRator
The entire list of 429 early Triple Crown nominees were processed and we narrow it down to 39 horses to watch with (BLOFLED AND OSTROLENKA) kinda inactive. This list will be further reduced (by defects etc) but THESE are the REAL DERBY CONTENDERS TO WATCH.
AVANTI BELLO
BARBADOS
BAYERD
BRAVO CHARLIE
COMBAT DIVER
CROSS THE LINE
DADTAUGHTMEWELL
DECISION DAY
DEKABRIST
DIRT MONSTER
DUKIN' WITH DALE
EAGLE
EH CUMPARI
EL KABEIR
FAR RIGHT
FRAMMENTO
FROSTED
G FIVE
GENERAL BELLAMY
GOLDEN YEARS
GOOD LUCK GUS
HASHTAG BOURBON
JUAN AND BINA
KILLINGIT
METABOSS
NASA
NO PROBLEM
OCHO OCHO OCHO
RUNAWAY BLING
STEEL
THE TRUTH OR ELSE
TO THE VICTOR
TRADESMAN
UNRIVALED
UPSTART
VERRACO
WAR STORY
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I believe the “Cowboy" AKA Bob Baffert might have another Point Given in Dortmund and if so, it will take some tough competition to beat him.
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02-10-2015, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Cratos
I believe the “Cowboy" AKA Bob Baffert might have another Point Given in Dortmund and if so, it will take some tough competition to beat him.
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Any horse tougher than Firing Line would have beaten him twice now.
I wonder how he's going to easily put away larger fields of tougher opponents.
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02-10-2015, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Any horse tougher than Firing Line would have beaten him twice now.
I wonder how he's going to easily put away larger fields of tougher opponents.
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Dortmund is a young horse (reminiscent of a young Forego) who is very large and once he fills out, the sky is the limit and he might not reach his physical size development until he is 4yos.
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02-10-2015, 11:39 PM
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The best horse on this list is Upstart, but it's just missing too many.
Recent form trumps pedigree analysis, as horses like Dekabrist (and I'm sure a couple others on there) aren't going to come anywhere close to making the Derby.
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02-12-2015, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bennie
NarrowRator - I don't think anyone took "offense" to your posting I am just adding my opinion to the thread as I believe so are the others. We all have our own little niches we look for in a Derby winner and as we all know, we can't all be right. The one who are do get the right to brag a little come May 2nd. Could very well be you this year.
Sorry to hear you can't bet the futures in Jamaica. Not even with an offshore account? I used to have one near the Bay when I had a Maryland address but had to close it when my wife and I decided to stay in Jersey.
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Thanks.
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02-12-2015, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
The best horse on this list is Upstart, but it's just missing too many.
Recent form trumps pedigree analysis, as horses like Dekabrist (and I'm sure a couple others on there) aren't going to come anywhere close to making the Derby.
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This is what makes horse racing fun. Upstart is the "best" horse on the list in your eye's.
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02-14-2015, 03:57 PM
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Derby Contender?
I hope International Star runs well in whichever prep the horse is pointing toward. \O/ \o/ . . .
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04-09-2015, 12:42 PM
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*I - STAR* Derby Contender Yes!
International Star has run exceptionally well in winning his last three in a row at the Fair Grounds. LeComte Stakes, Risen Star Stakes, Louisiana Derby. \O/ \o/
GO BIG DORT , , , , , , ,
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04-09-2015, 01:05 PM
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Don't you think International Star has raced lackluster competition though?
I have no idea who I like for the derby... or should i say i can narrow it down to 1. I like a bunch of horses.
Dortmund
Carpe Diem
American Pharaoh
Firing Line
Materiality
Mubtaahij
and its hard to figure out who the clunker uppers are in this bunch. I think after the 6 mentioned above, Frosted, and International Star there is a huge drop off. but you know at least one of them are clunking up to finish top 4
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04-09-2015, 01:25 PM
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Where's Depositor?
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04-09-2015, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by nads1420
Don't you think International Star has raced lackluster competition though?
I have no idea who I like for the derby... or should i say i can narrow it down to 1. I like a bunch of horses.
Dortmund
Carpe Diem
American Pharaoh
Firing Line
Materiality
Mubtaahij
and its hard to figure out who the clunker uppers are in this bunch. I think after the 6 mentioned above, Frosted, and International Star there is a huge drop off. but you know at least one of them are clunking up to finish top 4
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I dont think horses now a days race vs great competition until they get into the KD.......Dortmund vs Firing Line is the only 2 good horses that is considered competition worthwhile talking about.
Big Brown didn't run against anyone good before the derby......Smarty Jones.......I can name quite a few derby winners.
Funny Cide ran against the best before the derby, Monarchos as well.
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04-09-2015, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan
I dont think horses now a days race vs great competition until they get into the KD.......Dortmund vs Firing Line is the only 2 good horses that is considered competition worthwhile talking about.
Big Brown didn't run against anyone good before the derby......Smarty Jones.......I can name quite a few derby winners.
Funny Cide ran against the best before the derby, Monarchos as well.
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Who did Seattle Slew and Affirmed run against before making it to the Derby?
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04-09-2015, 08:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueChip@DRF
Who did Seattle Slew and Affirmed run against before making it to the Derby?
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Fratello Ed and Radar Ahead?
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