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Old 01-05-2015, 09:13 PM   #1
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Early 2015 Breeders Cup Classic Odds

Yes, you read that correctly. Wynn Sports Book in Las Vegas has released a 2015 Breeders Cup Classic odds board that is listed below.

So....., who ya got?

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Old 01-05-2015, 09:15 PM   #2
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You have to hand it to John Avello.
If there's an opportunity to promote via futures betting, he's on it.

Naturally, there is little, or no, value there.
However, the list of potential participants is much smaller than the Derby.

The only problem I have with it is this.
There should be a "field" bet.
He should update the list every month, and change the bet# on "the field".

If you can't win betting on a proposition, you shouldn't be able to lose on it.

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Old 01-05-2015, 09:47 PM   #3
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You have to hand it to John Avello.
If there's an opportunity to promote via futures betting, he's on it.

Naturally, there is little, or no, value there.
However, the list of potential participants is much smaller than the Derby.

The only problem I have with it is this.
There should be a "field" bet.
He should update the list every month, and change the bet# on "the field".

If you can't win betting on a proposition, you shouldn't be able to lose on it.
The field would be 1-100
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Old 01-05-2015, 09:59 PM   #4
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The field would be 1-100
Too skinny.
Certainly 1-10, though.
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Old 01-05-2015, 10:31 PM   #5
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This has been out for awhile. They had it when I was in Vegas at Christmastime and bet the Derby future book. It's ridiculous.
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Old 01-05-2015, 10:48 PM   #6
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Id bet some derby horses at 300-1 but this is nonsense.
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Old 01-06-2015, 09:47 AM   #7
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This is silly. But at the same time, who can blame them if bettors are gullible enough to wager on this?
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:07 AM   #8
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Didn't Palace Malice retire? or is he coming back this year.
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Didn't Palace Malice retire? or is he coming back this year.
He's recovered, and they plan to run him again.
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Old 01-06-2015, 06:19 PM   #10
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Please ignore my ignorance on this but what happens to the $$$ when none of these win the race? I mean with no field beat and all?
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Please ignore my ignorance on this but what happens to the $$$ when none of these win the race? I mean with no field beat and all?
House took the risk, so to speak, so house keeps the handle.

The more I look at the odds, they really should be embarrassed to hang this.
Most of those numbers should be doubled or tripled.

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Old 01-06-2015, 06:29 PM   #12
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Please ignore my ignorance on this but what happens to the $$$ when none of these win the race? I mean with no field beat and all?
Same thing that happens to the $$$ on horses that do not start.
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He's recovered, and they plan to run him again.
I am a huge Palace Malice fan, and his odds of 6/1 are off the charts ridiculous. Hopefully he comes back strong, but it is a 50/50 proposition at best.

I would have to get 20/1 to 30/1 to even start thinking about making a wager on him at this point in time.

These odds look like we are a month out and half the field has already been decided upon.
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I am a huge Palace Malice fan, and his odds of 6/1 are off the charts ridiculous. Hopefully he comes back strong, but it is a 50/50 proposition at best.

I would have to get 20/1 to 30/1 to even start thinking about making a wager on him at this point in time.

These odds look like we are a month out and half the field has already been decided upon.
Very true.
The odds listing is for show - strictly for marketing.
They really aren't encouraging anyone to make a bet.
Anyone who has the slightest concept of odds value, that is.

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Old 01-07-2015, 10:40 AM   #15
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With so few horses offered this far out, an oddsmaker has little choice but to keep the odds fairly low to protect the book's exposure. Given that folks have to be in Las Vegas to make this bet, Avello is wise to put it out in December for those who may only visit once a year. He surely knows how to make his book profitable or he wouldn't be at a property like Wynn.
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