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Old 11-19-2014, 08:57 PM   #1
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Back to Back track records broken

at the mountain tonight in the 5th and 6th race that was held for the last 14 years.
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Old 11-19-2014, 09:03 PM   #2
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They must be running on ice.
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Old 11-19-2014, 10:06 PM   #3
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The horse in the 5th race was a dog on paper, and ran off like a wild horse strangled, he could have won by a lot more, not sure where that performance came from, looked like a superhorse and coming on form was a commoner.
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Old 11-21-2014, 08:46 PM   #4
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Old 11-24-2014, 04:34 PM   #5
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Strange evening. Just posted blog on it.
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Old 11-24-2014, 04:36 PM   #6
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The horse in the 5th race ran off like a wild horse strangled, he could have won by a lot more
With all respect, sir, I could not disagree more.

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Old 11-24-2014, 05:33 PM   #7
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With all respect, sir, I could not disagree more.
Elaborate if you can. I thought the horse was the worse of the entry, but maybe i was wrong and they were really betting on the winner? He didnt' show me anything on paper and essentially exploded, i had to take a double take at his PPs after he won to make sure a horse with PPs can look like that under the wire.

What did i miss?
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Old 11-24-2014, 05:53 PM   #8
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Elaborate if you can. I thought the horse was the worse of the entry, but maybe i was wrong and they were really betting on the winner? He didnt' show me anything on paper and essentially exploded, i had to take a double take at his PPs after he won to make sure a horse with PPs can look like that under the wire.

What did i miss?
I agree the horse had mediocre form, but disagree that the performance was exceptional. It was exceptional for Silver Antelope, but not so big in the grand scheme of things-or even for the condition. I touch on his effort in the blog posted today.
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Old 11-24-2014, 05:59 PM   #9
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I agree the horse had mediocre form, but disagree that the performance was exceptional. It was exceptional for Silver Antelope, but not so big in the grand scheme of things-or even for the condition. I touch on his effort in the blog posted today.
Let me clarify. I dont think this is any kind of good horse going forward, im just questioning the form reversal.
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Old 11-24-2014, 06:18 PM   #10
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Was it an off track?
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Old 11-24-2014, 08:31 PM   #11
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Was it an off track?
Frozen, I believe. The winners received Beyers of 83 and 85. which were 23 and 16 points higher than their most recent races.
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Old 11-24-2014, 08:33 PM   #12
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Frozen, I believe. The winners received Beyers of 83 and 85. which were 23 and 16 points higher than their most recent races.
Those are phenominal bet-againsts next time at reduced prices, hopefully the track is listed as fast in the DRF.
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Those are phenominal bet-againsts next time at reduced prices, hopefully the track is listed as fast in the DRF.

I agree, definitely bounce prospects.
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Old 11-24-2014, 09:12 PM   #14
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I agree, definitely bounce prospects.
Even if they don't bounce, they're good bet againsts, they'll be overbet due to their fame and notoriety and are now known around the globe as track record holders in America.

Their international fame will get them overbet!
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Beyers , raw final times, and future performances aside, both record setters are likely to be overbet next time because neither effort was as good as it might seem.

Nobody behind Silver Antelope brought their A-game, and Present Course was flattered when the pace fell apart at the peak of his customary turn-move.
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