 |
|
11-22-2014, 03:06 PM
|
#31
|
|
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 25,607
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
Honor Code is being positioned to be a future stud as an AP Indy line stud.
They will stretch him out and try to win some major grade I route races.
|
It wouldn't hurt his value at all to win a race in California, they might want to gradually work their way to two turns, he's an exciting horse and he's certainly in a stable that will do right by him going forward.
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 03:13 PM
|
#32
|
|
clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 23,558
|
He looked classy today beating up on allowance foes, behind a great pace setup.
Looked like he got a race under his belt, and should have moved forward a little.
No need to ship to California, and butt-heads @ 7f and risk losing that momentum.
__________________
Preparation. Discipline. Patience. Decisiveness.
|
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 03:23 PM
|
#33
|
|
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 25,607
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
He looked classy today beating up on allowance foes, behind a great pace setup.
Looked like he got a race under his belt, and should have moved forward a little.
No need to ship to California, and butt-heads @ 7f and risk losing that momentum.
|
No doubt. If he was mine, i would stay on the east coast. But i wouldn't criticize a west coast ship for the Malibu if that's what they decided.
|
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 03:29 PM
|
#34
|
|
@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,828
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
He looked classy today beating up on allowance foes, behind a great pace setup.
Looked like he got a race under his belt, and should have moved forward a little.
No need to ship to California, and butt-heads @ 7f and risk losing that momentum.
|
What? Sorry, I don't get this kind of thinking. It is a G1. Winning one at 7f would enhance his value, not hurt it. And momentum just sounds silly to me. He's a horse.
|
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 03:30 PM
|
#35
|
|
First Time Gelding
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 642
|
I would stretch him out for a start or two to keep him tight and aim towards a big stake 6f-8f in the spring
|
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 03:35 PM
|
#36
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 20,604
|
He got a pretty good pace setup, but that was about as impressive as Shug could have hoped. I'm glad the rest of the field was so flawed or I would have played against him. Now we have to see if he can go forward.
I'm not sure I'm buying into the idea that he's a better sprinter. We knew he had a tremendous turn of foot from his first start, but I saw nothing in the Champagne or Remsen to suggest he doesn't want to go longer too. I thought he was excellent in the Champagne. The Remsen was clouded by the extreme pace, but at least he won. The only disappointing race was the ALW race against Social Inclusion, but that was GP, it was a slow pace, he was having issues at the time and was not 100%, and it may have said more about Social Inclusion than Honor Code. SI was a disappointment later with suspect handling, but IMO he was very good that day and in the Wood.
__________________
"Unlearning is the highest form of learning"
Last edited by classhandicapper; 11-22-2014 at 03:37 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 03:45 PM
|
#37
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 20,604
|
I'd only consider shipping to CA for the Malibu if that race looks a little soft. He was very impressive, but it's not like he beat a really good field today. Most people I know that were looking to play against him were struggling to come up with someone not flawed enough to be worth taking a stab with.
Does anyone have an idea which horses are looking at the Malibu?
__________________
"Unlearning is the highest form of learning"
Last edited by classhandicapper; 11-22-2014 at 03:47 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 03:55 PM
|
#38
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 16,487
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
I'd only consider shipping to CA for the Malibu if that race looks a little soft. He was very impressive, but it's not like he beat a really good field today. Most people I know that were looking to play against him were struggling to come up with someone not flawed enough to be worth taking a stab with.
Does anyone have an idea which horses are looking at the Malibu?
|
It maybe wasn't the best field, but could he have done it any easier?
|
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 03:58 PM
|
#39
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 20,604
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Valuist
It maybe wasn't the best field, but could he have done it any easier?
|
No. Late in the stretch run I got a flashback of watching Forego win a sprint prep years ago.....but then I came to my senses. 
__________________
"Unlearning is the highest form of learning"
|
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 04:22 PM
|
#40
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 166
|
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69mBgbkuIfk
There you go....turning back from ten!
Doubt Shug could be any happier from this comeback. Acts like a racehorse. I'd expect them to have fun with him down in FL versus shipping west to go seven.
|
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 04:51 PM
|
#41
|
|
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 25,607
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
I'd only consider shipping to CA for the Malibu if that race looks a little soft. He was very impressive, but it's not like he beat a really good field today. Most people I know that were looking to play against him were struggling to come up with someone not flawed enough to be worth taking a stab with.
Does anyone have an idea which horses are looking at the Malibu?
|
It doesn't matter who he beat because you rate each horse as an individual. If Michael Jordan beat me in a game of 1 on 1, would you think he's any less talented because of who he beat?
|
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 05:16 PM
|
#42
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 2,752
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Stillriledup
It doesn't matter who he beat because you rate each horse as an individual. If Michael Jordan beat me in a game of 1 on 1, would you think he's any less talented because of who he beat?
|
Yes
|
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 05:19 PM
|
#43
|
|
Registered user
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: FALIRIKON DELTA
Posts: 4,439
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Stillriledup
It doesn't matter who he beat because you rate each horse as an individual. If Michael Jordan beat me in a game of 1 on 1, would you think he's any less talented because of who he beat?
|
Absolutely!
(What are the chances this contenst will materialize any time soon?)
__________________
whereof one cannot speak thereof one must be silent
Ludwig Wittgenstein
|
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 05:21 PM
|
#44
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 4,520
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by arw629
I would stretch him out for a start or two to keep him tight and aim towards a big stake 6f-8f in the spring
|
He,s a natural for the met mile
Allan
|
|
|
|
|
11-22-2014, 05:25 PM
|
#45
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 4,520
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
No. Late in the stretch run I got a flashback of watching Forego win a sprint prep years ago.....but then I came to my senses. |
Lol sprint prep, you know forego won sprinter of the year
He took the vosbough. :-)
Allan
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
