What's Dave Schwartz up to?

[DJofSD]

Dave,

I read most of everything you post. Most of the time, I have little to add, so I guess that makes me a lurker when I comes to your contributions on this site. If this was one of the old PIRCO gatherings, I'd be one of those applauding enthusiastically.

[raybo]

Originally Posted by DJofSD

Dave,

If this was one of the old PIRCO gatherings, I'd be one of those applauding enthusiastically.

Wish I had been in racing during that time (or maybe I was but just unaware that it existed). It must have been exciting being on the cutting edge!!

[Dave Schwartz]

Thanks for the well-wishes, guys.

I assure you that I am alive and well. Family is doing great. Business is just fine. Loving life more than I used to.

[DJofSD]

Originally Posted by raybo

Wish I had been in racing during that time (or maybe I was but just unaware that it existed). It must have been exciting being on the cutting edge!!

To the extent I was there towards the end of PIRCO, it was. Doubly so living in San Diego with Beaumont a relatively short drive away and then meeting and getting to know some of the teaching members. Hell, I'll even admit I liked Spencer and talked to him regularly.

Opinions run the gamut and I do not -- DO NOT -- want revisit any of the issues, however, I will say this: the first time I attended a presentation, listening to Doc and others, it was like a breath of fresh air.

[Poindexter]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

This happens to me too, Dave...but I look at it in a different way. I just assume that my point was irrefutable...and left no room for further discussion.

I have the same viewpoint (never seems to work with SRU however, he will always refute me when it comes to rebates). To take it a step further, I feel I end a number of threads because once I have posted, there is nothing left to say.

In all seriousness however, just because you get no response, does not mean that people are not reading and learning. I have read and learned from many posts over the years, but did not chime in with anything. I am sure countless others have as well. It is sort of the nature of posting forums. Maybe it is time for PA to add some kind of a clap meter for each post(or in my case a boo meter ) From a personal standpoint, I feel if I do not have anything that I consider of value to add to a subject I pretty much just read and go on. Doesn't mean I do not learn from it.

Bottom line is that guys like Dave (guys who are around winners and know the mechanics of winning) are a huge asset to this forum. Most horse player are surrounded by a group of horse players that lose long term and if not for this forum would think that 100% of horse players lose and do not have any successful models or mentors to learn from. This forum fills some of that void.

[raybo]

Originally Posted by Poindexter

I have the same viewpoint (never seems to work with SRU however, he will always refute me when it comes to rebates). To take it a step further, I feel I end a number of threads because once I have posted, there is nothing left to say.

In all seriousness however, just because you get no response, does not mean that people are not reading and learning. I have read and learned from many posts over the years, but did not chime in with anything. I am sure countless others have as well. It is sort of the nature of posting forums. Maybe it is time for PA to add some kind of a clap meter for each post(or in my case a boo meter ) From a personal standpoint, I feel if I do not have anything that I consider of value to add to a subject I pretty much just read and go on. Doesn't mean I do not learn from it.

Bottom line is that guys like Dave (guys who are around winners and know the mechanics of winning) are a huge asset to this forum. Most horse player are surrounded by a group of horse players that lose long term and if not for this forum would think that 100% of horse players lose and do not have any successful models or mentors to learn from. This forum fills some of that void.

Good post!

I don't always reply in threads because I don't feel I have anything to contribute that hasn't already been addressed adequately. But, I do try to recognize posts that I feel offer great info or unique ideas, or vice versa (I find it hard to ignore posts that strike me as bad thinking or bad advice. )

[thaskalos]

There is more than one way to look at things. When a poster takes considerable time to think up and type a lengthy posting, it's natural for him to expect some kind of response to it...otherwise he will feel, as Dave does, that his time has been wasted. I think all of us have felt this way at times.

On the other hand...it is also natural to feel that a response is only warranted when you have something to add to the conversation. In any case...I think that it's wrong to assume that people disagree with you when they don't respond to your post. If experience has taught me anything in this place...it's that you'll hear it pretty quickly when people disagree with you.

[castaway01]

I also noticed Dave wasn't contributing as much, and I'll add that I consider Dave one of the top posters on the site. Your presence is missed, but I'm glad things are going well. If at some point the climate here changes or you have more free time, it'd be great to see more posts from you again.

[Dave Schwartz]

Okay, so now I will have to get therapy to deal with the guilt of not posting enough. LOL

You guys will be the death of me yet.


I really do have plans to come back soon.

[DJofSD]

Dave, all good things come to he that waits -- that's a message meant for myself and the others.

And, I prefer quality over quantity.

[ronsmac]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

Thanks for missing me, Al.

I have not posted as much lately for several reasons.

1. I have spent a lot of time doing custom programming this year for private clients, more than in any 3 previous years that I can recall. This has kept me quiet and busy.

2. I have perceived a shift of dominance on PA towards a handful of posters that seem to enjoy argument. While I am always for exchange of ideas --- how else does one learn something they do not know? --- when it degenerates to argument rarely is anything to be learned.

3. When I post, I rarely get responses. Not sure if I am on too many ignore lists - LOL - or people just disagree with me so strongly that I seem to be coming from left field to them, but for whatever reason, when I post it seems nobody listens so why bother?

However, perhaps the biggest reason I have been less active is that the last year has been one of self-discovery for me. For over 35 years I have been wanting to make "significant" money from wagering. Through partnerships, I have had a couple of fantastic years but have not realized the goals I set so many years ago.

Last year, just about this time, I set out to play "professionally." I played for a couple of weeks and made some money - enough to let me know I could do it if I wanted to. That turned out to be the real problem: it was just so much like a job that I just was not sure I really wanted to do it any more.

It was a good thing that I had so much programming to keep me afloat, because I have done absolutely zero marketing since last December. No BlogTalks, no posts to my web page, no emails, nothing. We still sell product, but I have build nothing new in quite awhile.

Do not think we are done or have even curtailed business!

I have been in this business for over 24 years on a full-time basis. I spent the first 20 years building what I thought the public needed, then spent the next 3 years building what I thought the public wanted.

Now I am trying to figure out how I can have a good time and still fill the public's needs to the point of justifying my time.

I love horse racing. But I love my family, children, and grandchildren more. Time with them is very important to me.

All that being said, my systemology is at the strongest point it has ever been. I am betting less horses, with a higher hit rate and greater return than at any time since the Sartin era. In fact, I am doing so well that I recently gave away - GAVE - to all of my users a simple HSH selection system that has been profitable for over 1,000 wagers. As you can imagine, if I gave that one away, I have an even better one that I kept.

I am seriously considering going back to the window "professionally," possibly with the idea of taking on a "personal" playing partner. (That means not a mini-whale endeavor.)

So, thanks again for asking. In the next couple of months, I will probably resurface with a plan where I can share some knowledge, make some money and benefit everyone else at the same time.


Kind Regards,
Dave Schwartz

Strong post.

[098poi]

Glad to hear all is well. The last I remember I thought you were working on a new product which I have been waiting for. I did not hear about your system you gave to your user's. (I am one) Maybe I will email you. Be well.

[whodoyoulike]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

Thanks for missing me, Al.

I have not posted as much lately for several reasons.

2. I have perceived a shift of dominance on PA towards a handful of posters that seem to enjoy argument. While I am always for exchange of ideas --- how else does one learn something they do not know? --- when it degenerates to argument rarely is anything to be learned.

Is one of them JustRalph? I've noticed when he gets on one of his rants, he goes on and on .... (sometimes 3 or 4 sentences).

But, he's usually right so I find it's difficult to argue with him.

[DJofSD]

I don't believe Dave frequents OT.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by DJofSD

I don't believe Dave frequents OT.

Occasionally, but not frequently.
He's had several posts in the "Religious Thread" and of course had several disagreements with the resident genius? know-it-all Swami there boxcar.