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09-28-2014, 06:29 PM
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Espinoza suspended for Awesome Again ride
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09-28-2014, 06:41 PM
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Good 
Also, because I'm sure Espinoza did not employ those tactics
without getting instructions from the connections, another warning
(and/or $ fine) should have been issued. In particular, to Mr. Baffert.
Last edited by horses4courses; 09-28-2014 at 06:42 PM.
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09-28-2014, 06:49 PM
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i dont agree with the suspension at all. Smith should of tucked in on the rail. It was a 7 horse field theres no way he should of got in that much trouble when you are the best horse.
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09-28-2014, 06:55 PM
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That's outrageous. There's nothing wrong with Espinoza and Baffert were doing, any more than it was wrong for Hedavar to be sent out to cook Dr. Fager and help Damascus.
It's part of racing that you try and hand a star horse a defeat by making the conditions inhospitable. The CHRB has no authority whatsoever to be trying to protect a horse's undefeated record.
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09-28-2014, 06:58 PM
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You go out there to ride your horse to win.
There wasn't much evidence of that on Sky Kingdom.
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09-28-2014, 07:00 PM
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I completely concur with the suspension. It was a total BS rodeo ride.
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09-28-2014, 07:09 PM
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I don't agree with that decision. Not that I argue there was monkey business going on, but the decision seems more the result of outside pressure versus what would be consistent with every day decisions steward's make. That or they want to put BC comers on notice about race riding? Really surprised by this. I agree with Dilanesp's Dr. Fager example, or plenty others I can think of, particularly if Angel had a chip on his shoulder, lol Anti Baffert fan here, but agree with his statement in the article of some going out simply to compromise Dude. It's racing, quit whining. Commendable the horse won, Espinoza is penalized by a jury of popular opinion. That should be the end of it.
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09-28-2014, 07:22 PM
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We allow jockeys to manipulate pace and tactics. (I think some racing jurisdictions do not allow major tactic shifts).
I think when they start "herding" horses out of paths it becomes too much.
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09-28-2014, 07:26 PM
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I think it's funny that Espinoza was complaining after the PA Derby that the other jockeys were riding just to make sure he didn't win(which didn't happen) then he goes out and actually does what he was complaining about to another horse.
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09-28-2014, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
We allow jockeys to manipulate pace and tactics. (I think some racing jurisdictions do not allow major tactic shifts).
I think when they start "herding" horses out of paths it becomes too much.
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Agreed.
I have a problem with the way Euro trainers often use "rabbits" to
ensure a decent pace for their higher ranked stablemates.
However, it's not as slimy as putting a horse in a race whose
role is merely to "herd" the heavily favored opponent.
That's unacceptable to me. 
This is horse racing, not demolition derby.
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09-28-2014, 07:30 PM
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Espinoza suspended for Awesome Again ride
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Originally Posted by Mineshaft
Smith should of tucked in on the rail.
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You can do that? Don't think Mr. Smith knows that tactic.
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09-28-2014, 07:31 PM
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http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/spor...e-again-stakes
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Espinoza didn’t know what all the fuss was about.
“They’re out of their minds,” he said. “It’s ridiculous. I would never try to hurt anybody or bump somebody, especially a horse like that.
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You mean like what you did to Looking At Lucky during his Santa Anita Derby ?
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09-28-2014, 07:37 PM
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There is a difference between race riding and having no other point to your ride than to attack another horse. He have those who bet on zero shot at any part of the payouts.
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09-28-2014, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike
You can do that? Don't think Mr. Smith knows that tactic.
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dont know wether you being sarcastic or not
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09-28-2014, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
There is a difference between race riding and having no other point to your ride than to attack another horse. He have those who bet on zero shot at any part of the payouts.
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Handicapping trainers' intentions is a part of handicapping. This is no different.
And people are going over the top. He didn't do anything DANGEROUS. Floating Shared Belief wide is not dangerous. He did try to help his stablemate win. And that should be totally permissible. The best horse should not be guaranteed a perfect trip by the stewards.
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