Can only whip 3 times...

[EMD4ME]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Funny..I'm just the opposite. I do the handicapping thing real and live...so have no use for a game.

What I don't do is riding/training/owning...that's the kind of simulation I would enjoy more.

I hear ha! But when Xmas comes and the family leaves, I'm bored lol and want a true horse game lol

[Longshot6977]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Funny..I'm just the opposite. I do the handicapping thing real and live...so have no use for a game.

What I don't do is riding/training/owning...that's the kind of simulation I would enjoy more.

Then this might be for you. I played it for a while, very fun to own the horse, train it and enter it in certain races. Then bet on it and even be the jockey if you want to.

http://www.cyanide-studio.com/games/others/horse/HRM2/

Here's a few other 'manager' type games. Enjoy.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...g+manager+game

[Fingal]

Since this whip rule pertains to races at Santa Anita, & the Breeder's Cup will be held there this year, will this rule be enforced for those races ?

[Longshot6977]

Originally Posted by Fingal

Since this whip rule pertains to races at Santa Anita, & the Breeder's Cup will be held there this year, will this rule be enforced for those races ?

That is a good possibility, but not certain.

[EMD4ME]

Originally Posted by Fingal

Since this whip rule pertains to races at Santa Anita, & the Breeder's Cup will be held there this year, will this rule be enforced for those races ?

I'd love to see that.....

Would love to see a breeders cup winner be up by 5, get whipped 4 times, lose a length of ground, hold on by 4 and they disqualify him/her of purse money!!!

An owner, trainer and jockey would be shafted like we us horseplayers are shafted in every conceivable way

[cj's dad]

Jockeys can count that high ?

[Inglewood Flamingo]

Originally Posted by Redboard

I see the jocks using that to their advantage. They can veer their horse into another's lane and then cry that they couldn't use the whip.

Exactly.

[Some_One]

They won't dq the horse, jock gets a vacation and fine in the UK, given how light they treat trainer violations, I would imagine US jocks would just get a stern talking to and thats all.

[dilanesp]

I think that this rule is being overanalyzed in this thread. OMG, jockeys will use this as an excuse to commit fouls. OMG, they might stop a jockey from continuing to whip a horse who is responding.

Look, they have these sorts of rules all over the world. Somehow, racing in those other places has survived. To me, the idea that there would be no restrictions at all on a jockey even absolutely savagely beating a horse is absolutely preposterous, and also, the fact of the matter is a lot of whipping is for show anyway (how many times have you watched a jockey whip a horse in the stretch who is well beaten and tiring, just to show the bettors and the stewards that the jockey was trying?). Look at the tape of last year's Breeders Cup Classic and tell me how important the whip is to getting a horse to run.

I think people need to calm down here. There's going to be a rule, it probably isn't going to be enforced very well anyway, but hopefully it will at least curb some of the worst abuses of the whip while still allowing its use where it gets the horse to run faster. I just don't see how this is going to ruin racing in California, any more than the elimination of the spur did.

[Stillriledup]

I didn't read anywhere them saying breaking this rule will result in no disqualification.

As a bettor, isn't this a pretty important piece of info?

[Nosed]

Maybe they could use a lighter weighted whip. Horses like most animals are creatures of habit. After they've been trained, I think they would respond to the whip just out of habit, but not being a jockey, it would be nice to know what some of them think.
One other thing. Is the article saying, you can only use the whip three times?, or only three times and stop before you whip again?

[Ruffian1]

The whip gets the most run out of a horse when it is used sparingly. I know about Eddie Maple and guys that hit their horses 30-40 times. Whatever. It did not make them run any faster I promise you.

It is best used when first shown to the horse and or used in the shoulder area while still turned down or even when re gripped before using it on the back hip area where it is then used 1,2, or 3 times and then switched to the other hand and not shown but used 1,2, or 3 times. After that, maybe 5 or 10 seconds later once or twice more but that is it. Anything else is mostly for show.

It is the element of surprise that gets the best response, not the pain from it.

Funny thing about the old intellivision game was the horse really jumped with the 1st hit. After that, lesser reaction and after 5 you were out of ammo. Then, as the OP said, your horse stopped if it was used too early. Fun game. I still have mine. Lol. Might need to get it up and running after this.

[ubercapper]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

I didn't read anywhere them saying breaking this rule will result in no disqualification.

As a bettor, isn't this a pretty important piece of info?

I've read this or similar in more than one place, most recently http://sdhorserace.com/2014/11/20/ch...e-for-jockeys/.

There is no mention of disqualification, although it appears there is room for interpretation in the words "most likely."

"A jockey who does not pause after three consecutive whips to allow the horse to respond, will be penalized, most likely in the form of a fine."

[Tom]

Stupid rule.
Being interpreted by stupid stewards.
What happens when jocks don't give a 4th whip in the drive at the wire?
There is no reason a rule this idiotic- all the stewards have to do is thier freaking jobs and call up individual jocks who abuse the whip.

But I guess doing their job is above the pay grade of this group of incompetents.

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[EMD4ME]

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...lvania-racing/

PA doesn't have a 3 whip rule. They have many more problems than this BUT.............

I wish I could take that crop and SMACK THAT JOCKEY AS hard as he did on a horse that ZERO shot at a placing/check in the stretch.

Shi* *ead