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Old 08-28-2014, 08:55 AM   #1
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undesirable's in Las Vegas

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Old 08-28-2014, 11:35 AM   #2
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You on that list?
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Old 08-28-2014, 11:57 AM   #3
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So everyone who's been to Vegas since 1999 is desirable.
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Old 08-28-2014, 12:09 PM   #4
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That web page was written in 1999.
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That list is in dire need of revision.
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Old 08-28-2014, 01:10 PM   #7
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You have to wonder what's been going on in the last 15 years.

Or is it like the old bit of " Ask me no questions & I'll tell you no lies "?
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im still trying to figure out what this thread has to do with horse racing.
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Old 08-28-2014, 03:43 PM   #9
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its pretty obvious that a few guys on the list were involved in some type of race fixing
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Old 08-28-2014, 04:51 PM   #11
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im still trying to figure out what this thread has to do with horse racing.
I have a better question: What does Off Topic have to do with horse racing?

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Old 08-28-2014, 05:28 PM   #12
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Definitely needs updating, I didn't move here until 2000
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Old 08-28-2014, 06:44 PM   #13
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its pretty obvious that a few guys on the list were involved in some type of race fixing


got it now i just saw that
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Old 08-28-2014, 07:35 PM   #14
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I have a better question: What does Off Topic have to do with horse racing?

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I have the best question: Why does it appear that Boxcar is unaware this thread was moved on or about 2:43PM CDT?
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Old 08-28-2014, 07:36 PM   #15
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Richie "The Fixer" Perry



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Richard Mark Perry also known as "Richie the Fixer" or Sam Perry. Perry was added to the list of undesirables in 1992, mainly because of two felony convictions for influencing the outcome of sporting events. Both of these cases involved individuals associated with the Luchese organized crime family. He was also convicted of tax evasion in 1996, for hiding money from a bookmaking business. Perry is reportedly residing in Florida at the present time.

A lengthy list of reasons banned Perry from casinos, including his 1974 conviction for conspiring to bribe jockeys at the Yonkers and Roosevelt race tracks in New York and his 1984 conviction for bribing Boston College basketball players. Perry helped perpetrate the Boston College basketball point-shaving scandal (1978-79) and the 1973 Superfecta harness racing scandal in New York state.

In the Superfecta races ... a bettor had to pick the first four winners in a race in their exact order. Perry figured that by getting two or three of the drivers to pull back or get their horses boxed in, we could eliminate two or three of the eight horses from the race. Then we could bet multiples of the remaining combinations at minimum cost. The payoff in a superfecta race was usually about $3,000, and it cost $5,040 to buy one ticket for all possible winning combinations. But the ring only needed to bet on the horses it hadn't secretly eliminated. That cost only $1,089, guaranteeing them a profit of nearly $2,000 per set of tickets.
Never met the man, but I dealt with several over the years who were
associates of his. One guy, in particular, was very close to Perry.

Like Perry, he was barred from harness tracks, except his shady
dealings were in Chicago. This man (still alive, to my knowledge)
bet money, both race and sports, in Nevada for a number of people
wishing to keep a low profile. Anyone remember jockey Ron Hansen?

The black book is updated from time to time - at least annually.
True, there are many in it who are long since gone.
Once you're in it, though, you're a lifer.
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