DONE WITH NYRA

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

The track owners and the horsemen already have an image in their minds of what the "greatest sport ever" would be...and the horseplayer is an unnecessary and unwelcomed participant in it. It's an image of an ocean of intoxicated slots players merrily and mindlessly lining up to entirely take over the responsibility of funding the purses which necessitated the toleration of those aggravating and forever complaining horseplayers all these years.

For years they've wanted to get rid of us...but they didn't know how to manage it. Well, now they do...and they are not shy to tell it to our faces.

This....is pretty accurate.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

"The problem are all the addicts and idiots crying because they lost a $2 bet, and then demanding a level playing field. It will never be a level playing field. There are a lot of things people don't know...and won't know."

"If you bet on horses, I would call you an idiot. I don't bet, there is a reason they call it gambling. I train to win and that's all I care about. It's not my problem (if the general public is deceived). They ought to bring in slot machines, then we could run our horses and make a living without worrying about some crybaby calling the stewards and raising a fit."

-- Jeff Mullins, 2005

Here's the famous "mullins unloads" thread. Enjoy.

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...hlight=mullins

[tanner12oz]

How many nyra bashing threads we going to have before someone acknowledges there is an issue?

keeneland are about the only suits I trust in this game

[Tom]

"...oozes of parasites..."

Well, the bright side is that you probably don't care when someone helps themselves to your pizza!

Does seem like a rather odd business model altogether.

[pacer]

I just prefer to play in my house over the track any day I live NY and Don't like going to belmont unless there is live racing and doesn't matter if they r live at aqu that place is a horror show.

[pacer]

Also I use a checking account to fund my Nyra acct it is free agree the website not the best. also use xpressbet and never have a problem.

[alhattab]

I believe admission is free to the AQU and BEL simulcasts. The OPs warranted desire for special treatment is understandable given his level of play. For the lower end players,a lot of the issues would seemingly disappear if there was an admission charge, refundable based on certain levels of play. We often comment about how racetrack admission should be free, but in certain areas that allows access for some undesirables, even if it is the harmless person looking for a handout or someone more dangerous.

[classhandicapper]

I haven't had any bad experiences at the Belmont simulcast. Granted I wouldn't leave an expensive laptop or IPad around, but that's true in general.

[spiketoo]

Originally Posted by alhattab

I believe admission is free to the AQU and BEL simulcasts. The OPs warranted desire for special treatment is understandable given his level of play. For the lower end players,a lot of the issues would seemingly disappear if there was an admission charge, refundable based on certain levels of play. We often comment about how racetrack admission should be free, but in certain areas that allows access for some undesirables, even if it is the harmless person looking for a handout or someone more dangerous.

May be a bit steep but it could be adjusted accordingly. The old sportsbook at Caliente (where you could 'pick your odds' before co-mingling of pools - kinda the predecessor to exchange wagering), 'charged' you a $50 voucher for admission.

[johnhannibalsmith]

What is really uninspiring is that the OP's "really bad day" portion would probably constitute the pinnacle of local wagering convenience and attention to detail if we weren't nine furlongs behind the OP's state where I am.

[DeltaLover]

To be honest and fair, Aqueduct has done a ton of progress lately. The new player's room, is one of the best places in racing I have ever seen from any way you can see it: luxurious seats with very clean environment and very polite and helpful NYRA employees, clean restrooms and a nice bar. I really see no reason to go to Belmont or any other place to play horses...

[LottaKash]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

I haven't had any bad experiences at the Belmont simulcast. Granted I wouldn't leave an expensive laptop or IPad around, but that's true in general.

Anywhere on the planet, at any time ....

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by LottaKash

Anywhere on the planet, at any time ....

There are sometimes comparisons made between horse racing and other forms of gambling.

Compare the stories of petty (racing form) and non-petty theft at horse racing venues in this thread to the fact that in a licensed poker room you can leave $3,000 sitting on a poker table with 9 total strangers you have never met before, get up, come back 15 minutes later, and every single dollar of it will still be there.

It's 2014 and pickpockets and thieves have hung around horse racing facilities for over a century. It's time something was done about them. It really isn't that hard to do with some competent security.

[PhantomOnTour]

Originally Posted by dilanesp

There are sometimes comparisons made between horse racing and other forms of gambling.

Compare the stories of petty (racing form) and non-petty theft at horse racing venues in this thread to the fact that in a licensed poker room you can leave $3,000 sitting on a poker table with 9 total strangers you have never met before, get up, come back 15 minutes later, and every single dollar of it will still be there.

It's 2014 and pickpockets and thieves have hung around horse racing facilities for over a century. It's time something was done about them. It really isn't that hard to do with some competent security.

But isn't there a dealer and/or pit boss present at every poker table?
Who would steal with those guys at the table?

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour

But isn't there a dealer and/or pit boss present at every poker table?
Who would steal with those guys at the table?

There is a dealer who isn't allowed to even do anything if there is theft.

And there is a floor supervisor who has 5 to 10 tables to watch (and who also has little authority when it comes to theft).

The key is that they have cameras pointed all over the place and trained security guards watching the action. Which is how you do security in 2014.