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Old 04-15-2014, 11:42 AM   #1
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TimeformUS winning Derby speed figures

Orb 111
I'll Have Another 116
Animal Kingdom 117
Super Saver 112
Mine that Bird 117
Big Brown 119
Street Sense 118
Barbaro 121
Giacomo 112
Smarty Jones 117
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:48 AM   #2
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...and these are the leaders so far this year at 1m 1/16 or longer:

1 Wicked Strong 117
2 Soc Incl 115
3 Soc Incl 114
4 Samraat 114
5 Schivarelli 113
6 Cal Chrome 113
7 Cal Chrome 111
8 Danza 110
9 Uncle Sigh 110
10 Samraat 110
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:53 PM   #3
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Orb 111
I'll Have Another 116
Animal Kingdom 117
Super Saver 112
Mine that Bird 117
Big Brown 119
Street Sense 118
Barbaro 121
Giacomo 112
Smarty Jones 117
Cj......are these speed figs after the derby was fun or are they the races leading up to the derby?
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Old 04-15-2014, 02:53 PM   #4
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Cj......are these speed figs after the derby was fun or are they the races leading up to the derby?
Those are for the Derby itself. If you have specific horses you want to know going into the Derby I can try to post that tomorrow, too much going on today! (taxes )
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Old 04-15-2014, 03:12 PM   #5
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Taxes - the downside to having good pace figures!
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Old 04-15-2014, 03:13 PM   #6
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Those are for the Derby itself. If you have specific horses you want to know going into the Derby I can try to post that tomorrow, too much going on today! (taxes )

Don't bother, its way too much work. Here's another ? In the past when you've done this, how has the top 3 of your speed figs done in the derby, if you have these results & can easily look them up, if not, don't bother if its to much work.......thanks in advance!
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Old 04-15-2014, 04:28 PM   #7
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My top derby prep winners look like this.

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California Chrome    SA Derby 113.8
Danza               Ark Derby 111.6
Vicar's In Trouble   LA Derby 111.3
Wicked Strong         WoodMem 110.2
Chitu               Sun Derby 110.2
Dance With Fate      BlueGras 106.2
Constitution        Fla Derby 104.4
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Old 04-15-2014, 05:06 PM   #8
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Thanks for sharing, CJ. I'm on board with those, of you know what I mean.

Time Fig, I also appreciate your post. Interesting.
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...and these are the leaders so far this year at 1m 1/16 or longer:

1 Wicked Strong 117
2 Soc Incl 115
3 Soc Incl 114
4 Samraat 114
5 Schivarelli 113
6 Cal Chrome 113
7 Cal Chrome 111
8 Danza 110
9 Uncle Sigh 110
10 Samraat 110
I agree with your placements of Wicked Strong and California Chrome. However I would move Samraat higher, maybe that is my NY bias.
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:34 PM   #10
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I agree with your placements of Wicked Strong and California Chrome. However I would move Samraat higher, maybe that is my NY bias.
He is on there twice, only two horses ahead of him...and of those isn't going to make the Derby.
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:07 PM   #11
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He is on there twice, only two horses ahead of him...and of those isn't going to make the Derby.
Cj, with the the major preps now completed in your opinion who ran best in the toughest prep?
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My top derby prep winners look like this.

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California Chrome    SA Derby 113.8
Danza               Ark Derby 111.6
Vicar's In Trouble   LA Derby 111.3
Wicked Strong         WoodMem 110.2
Chitu               Sun Derby 110.2
Dance With Fate      BlueGras 106.2
Constitution        Fla Derby 104.4
Greetings Speed:

I hope that you are doing well? My numbers pretty much fall in line with yours. If he runs like he has been running of late, pretty much everyone else will be struggling to stay in CC's wake for the Derby IMO. I hope that all of the talk continues up to the Derby about CC just being a Cal Bred, and on and on. It will most assuredly only help his odds come Derby day.
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:21 PM   #13
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Great stuff CJ.

Interesting Orb with the lowest on the list and never won again after the Derby.
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...and these are the leaders so far this year at 1m 1/16 or longer:

1 Wicked Strong 117
2 Soc Incl 115
3 Soc Incl 114
4 Samraat 114
5 Schivarelli 113
6 Cal Chrome 113
7 Cal Chrome 111
8 Danza 110
9 Uncle Sigh 110
10 Samraat 110

Thanks for posting this.
I'm starting to think I misread the strength of the Wood.
This is the third legit listing I've seen giving the Wood props.
I had the Wood behind a bunch of the preps.
It worries me if I'm this wrong on my read......Ugh.
I have no choice, I'm going have to revisit the race.
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Great stuff CJ.

Interesting Orb with the lowest on the list and never won again after the Derby.
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