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View Poll Results: California Chrome's post-time Derby Odds
<= 2-1 20 26.67%
>= 5/2 55 73.33%
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:28 PM   #31
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If Bayern runs the Ark Derby and wins he will take a lot of money away from California Chrome. I think people will be cautious on CC because he has only raced in Cali.
Maybe so. I sure hope so. Above 3-1 and it's empty-out time.
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:44 PM   #32
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Unless Bayern or Tapiture pull a 105 beyer &/or win by 5 to 10 lengths, Chrome will be between 2-1 & 5-2 as the closing derby favorite. I will be shocked if he's 4-1 or higher.
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Old 04-15-2014, 04:45 PM   #33
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Battaglia obviously isn't sold on CC

http://www.courier-journal.com/story...orite/7662599/

Judging by his comments in this article, the M/L on California Chrome should be higher than 3-1.
Mike Battaglia rates him as high as a 4, or 5-1 chance right now.

Can't say I disagree, because there are plenty of question marks.
I'm not sure, though, where he is coming from with his talk about training at CD up to the race.

True, there is always a steam horse coming from the clockers as they watch the works leading up to the race.
Some horses appear to like the track more than others during their works over the surface.
CC is not going to have a serious work there - just a leg stretch and a gallop or two.

Therefore, it's hard to assess his affinity for the CD surface - we won't really know until during the race.
If he looks bad galloping, then something else could be wrong - it's hardly the track.

The comment about another horse possibly being the favorite is a joke.
There's no way in hell that could be the case,
even if "that other horse" has a jet engine strapped to him during his works.

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Old 04-15-2014, 04:56 PM   #34
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I think he will be around 4/1 or 9/2. Too many people lately have been overbetting the longest shots on the board looking for the next Mine That Bird or Giacomo, making the odds on the favorite a little higher than in the past.
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Old 04-15-2014, 04:56 PM   #35
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I give him the Odds On Favorite. However, I believe we may be in for a surprise at the wire. Can't wait. Should be a great Derby Day!
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Old 04-15-2014, 05:35 PM   #36
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http://www.courier-journal.com/story...orite/7662599/

Judging by his comments in this article, the M/L on California Chrome should be higher than 3-1.
Mike Battaglia rates him as high as a 4, or 5-1 chance right now.

Can't say I disagree, because there are plenty of question marks.
I'm not sure, though, where he is coming from with his talk about training at CD up to the race.

True, there is always a steam horse coming from the clockers as they watch the works leading up to the race.
Some horses appear to like the track more than others during their works over the surface.
CC is not going to have a serious work there - just a leg stretch and a gallop or two.

Therefore, it's hard to assess his affinity for the CD surface - we won't really know until during the race.
If he looks bad galloping, then something else could be wrong - it's hardly the track.

The comment about another horse possibly being the favorite is a joke.
There's no way in hell that could be the case,
even if "that other horse" has a jet engine strapped to him during his works.

If this holds true, I will love to get 4-1 or higher on Chrome, goodness sakes! Smarty Jones money all over again......
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Old 04-15-2014, 05:47 PM   #37
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If this holds true, I will love to get 4-1 or higher on Chrome, goodness sakes! Smarty Jones money all over again......
Why are you so excited? The median odds for Kentucky Derby winners for the last 66 years are nearly 9-2.
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:15 PM   #38
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The odds that have been released today have...
California Chrome 3-1
Wicked Strong 6-1
Cairo Prince 12-1
Hoppertunity 15-1
Samraat 16-1
Danza 18-1
Ride on Curlin 18-1

I see no way anyone gets above 3-1 on CC.
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:13 PM   #39
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The odds that have been released today have...
California Chrome 3-1
Wicked Strong 6-1
Cairo Prince 12-1
Hoppertunity 15-1
Samraat 16-1
Danza 18-1
Ride on Curlin 18-1

I see no way anyone gets above 3-1 on CC.

Post position one might do it.
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:42 PM   #40
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The odds that have been released today have...
California Chrome 3-1
Wicked Strong 6-1
Cairo Prince 12-1
Hoppertunity 15-1
Samraat 16-1
Danza 18-1
Ride on Curlin 18-1

I see no way anyone gets above 3-1 on CC.

If Chrome gets post 1 or 2, he will go off 4-1 or 9-2
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:49 PM   #41
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Many tend to forget that we are dealing with a fair odds line that incorporates 20 horses.

I would like to see CC get pounded, while I think he is the best, its the freaking derby adn I won't bet on anyone under 3-1. Once you get 20 horses involved, who knows what.

But lets wait until post draw...lets see how the media handles the fact that he isn't going to workout at CD. Lets see how well others workout at CD and get some media boost.

I think we are likely looking at something rigth around 7/2 come post time.
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