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11-07-2015, 10:34 PM
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NoPoints4ME
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https://www.nyra.com/aqueduct/videos...0151106/8/pan/
How does this happen? Watch the stretch drive. The 1 clearly is holding off the 4 and Trakus has the 4 getting by the 1.
I see many errors (chicklets leaving the screen and coming back) with Trakus bot none like this before.
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11-07-2015, 11:27 PM
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Traded By Cubs
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Odd seeing that, but glad the official results & payoffs are correct.
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11-08-2015, 12:33 AM
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There are two types of TRAKUS participating track sites
1) The data appears in the page source and you can easily scrape the site. Gulfstream is an example.
2) The data is hidden and does not appear in the page source. Much harder to scrape. NYRA is an example.
This would appear to be controlled by the individual track/jurisdiction. I then wonder why a track would make it HARDER for bettors to make use of the data.
Moreover, the data on TRAKUS' site is much more comprehensive. Why the condensed version on track sites?
All this data and so many obstacles to using it.
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11-08-2015, 12:37 AM
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cdp, did you get in touch with them at Trakus for an account?
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11-08-2015, 12:49 AM
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Tried calling a few times but never get anyone live. Haven't left a message.
Ironically, I had an account ages ago and forget the password.
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11-08-2015, 12:51 AM
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That happened to me also, sent them an email and they sent the password back to me.
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11-08-2015, 12:52 AM
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I'll try that, thanks
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11-08-2015, 01:57 AM
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All this data and so many obstacles to using it.
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Amen.
You can't fix stupid.
Racing is run by greedy morons.
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11-08-2015, 09:57 AM
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NoPoints4ME
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Thanks for the effort everyone. Was just curious.
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11-08-2015, 12:21 PM
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Here's something interesting:
WO R1 10/24/15
The  , High End Gal, NEVER appears as one of the chicklets. At any point in the race.
And her running lines, except for the finish, final time and beaten lengths, are empty.
I suppose her device was not working.
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03-27-2016, 07:25 PM
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NoPoints4ME
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Sat March 26th,2016. Race 4. I need your opinion.
Watch the 5 and 6. Trakus has the 6 travelling 28 more feet than the 5.
Am I crazy or does it sound like they switched the saddle cloths in their assessment?
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03-27-2016, 07:31 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
Sat March 26th,2016. Race 4. I need your opinion.
Watch the 5 and 6. Trakus has the 6 travelling 28 more feet than the 5.
Am I crazy or does it sound like they switched the saddle cloths in their assessment?
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Shouldn't be too hard to see if that happened by checking BLs and positions against the Equibase chart.
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03-27-2016, 07:40 PM
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NoPoints4ME
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Originally Posted by cj
Shouldn't be too hard to see if that happened by checking BLs and positions against the Equibase chart.
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I checked the replay for 5th time, realized their chicklet for the 6th was OFF. They had the 6 4 wide the whole way, horse was near the rail the entire trip.
Wasn't even like the 6 was switched with someone, just the usual, total incompetency.
That's why visually checking everything is so important.
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03-27-2016, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
I checked the replay for 5th time, realized their chicklet for the 6th was OFF. They had the 6 4 wide the whole way, horse was near the rail the entire trip.
Wasn't even like the 6 was switched with someone, just the usual, total incompetency.
That's why visually checking everything is so important.
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Trakus "chicklets" (sensors) are not turned off/on during a race.
However they can and do malfunction due to susceptibility which is a failure mode with any electronic monitoring.
What would be good would be for you to contact Trakus directly and explain your concern; they are admendable to comments about their product.
There is no way to correlate Trakus measurements to Equibase's metrics because they time the race entirely different. Trakus time each horse in the race with respect to distance travelled. Equibase time the race at a fixed distance with specific POCs.
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03-27-2016, 08:29 PM
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NoPoints4ME
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Originally Posted by Cratos
Trakus "chicklets" (sensors) are not turned off/on during a race.
However they can and do malfunction due to susceptibility which is a failure mode with any electronic monitoring.
What would be good would be for you to contact Trakus directly and explain your concern; they are admendable to comments about their product.
There is no way to correlate Trakus measurements to Equibase's metrics because they time the race entirely different. Trakus time each horse in the race with respect to distance travelled. Equibase time the race at a fixed distance with specific POCs.
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That's good to hear. I was so annoyed that after 15 minutes, decided to post it on here to see if I'm going crazy.
I'll let them know as I hate wasting time triple checking things.
Thank you
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