This could get very interesting (Penn arrests)

[Grits]

This is a place that one can only wish.. that a sink hole, a really big one, would open up and swallow the racetrack. Not its horses, mind you, but its track, and the scum that reside there.

[menifee]

Wow - this is amazing. This could be a new day in horse racing. If they start charging every trainer who drugs their horse with a federal wire fraud charge - we are not going to have any trainers left or this game will become clean real quick.

From a legal perspective, I'm not sure a wire fraud charge can stick here. I need to think about this.

[Mineshaft]

Originally Posted by menifee

Wow - this is amazing. This could be a new day in horse racing. If they start charging every trainer who drugs their horse with a federal wire fraud charge - we are not going to have any trainers left or this game will become clean real quick.

From a legal perspective, I'm not sure a wire fraud charge can stick here. I need to think about this.

Its going to tighten the game up you better believe it.

[lamboguy]

Originally Posted by Mineshaft

Its going to tighten the game up you better believe it.

this was the first time i have seen a case like this get prosecuted anywhere, let alone federally.

no doubt it does set a precedent for the future. the U.S. Attorney's office's are interested in cases that carry big fines. they might go after bigger fish next time out.

therefore i would say that this case will have a tremendous impact on the game, it might be a very positive one.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by menifee

Wow - this is amazing. This could be a new day in horse racing. If they start charging every trainer who drugs their horse with a federal wire fraud charge - we are not going to have any trainers left or this game will become clean real quick.

From a legal perspective, I'm not sure a wire fraud charge can stick here. I need to think about this.

I'm going to celebrate this bust by watching "The Firm" on the internet tonight.

Please Join me folks in a toast, to the Cuffs FINALLY coming out.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

I'm going to celebrate this bust by watching "The Firm" on the internet tonight.

Please Join me folks in a toast, to the Cuffs FINALLY coming out.

I'm sure Mr. Gill will be right there with you.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith

I'm sure Mr. Gill will be right there with you.

This is an incredible day for racing.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

This is an incredible day for racing.

I'd refrain from getting overly excited until you see this sort of action in more than one jurisdiction (and type of jurisdiction). But yeah, in theory, I can't really complain since I guess it has indeed come to this.

[Relwob Owner]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

This is an incredible day for racing.

It will be an incredible day when they are convicted of something substantial.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by Relwob Owner

It will be an incredible day when they are convicted of something substantial.

True, no doubt, i agree. We have to take one step at a time, but if someone actually goes to the big house, that would be party time.

[shouldacoulda]

Originally Posted by menifee

Wow - this is amazing. This could be a new day in horse racing. If they start charging every trainer who drugs their horse with a federal wire fraud charge - we are not going to have any trainers left or this game will become clean real quick.

From a legal perspective, I'm not sure a wire fraud charge can stick here. I need to think about this.

It may though invoke the RICO statute. If that happens they pretty much take everything you own. 25 years ago somebody told me there were satellites that could track 2 million cell phone calls per second simultaneously. They scan for numbers dialed and voice recognition. Remember the scene in one of those Patriot Games movies? The technology could have only gotten better since then. Privacy? That's a thing of the distant past.

[jerry-g]

Don't ya just love it! I can almost hear the phones ringing in Hollywood now.
Producers looking for the cast to star in a new Godfather movie about fixing
races. The public at large love to see crooks being handcuffed and sent up
the river to the big house. Irony for them will be that most prison inmates
are well versed in how to read a racing form.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by shouldacoulda

It may though invoke the RICO statute...

I don't see anything in those indictments or the allegations within that suggests an ongoing criminal conspiracy or enterprise. I think that's a monumental stretch.

[shouldacoulda]

Originally Posted by olddaddy

Tonite might be a night to play penn and use the form as an actually tool.

I had pretty much all but given up on the place. See some darn head scratching wins there. Too many of them.

[shouldacoulda]

Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith

I don't see anything in those indictments or the allegations within that suggests an ongoing criminal conspiracy or enterprise. I think that's a monumental stretch.

You're probably right. I'm no lawyer.