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08-30-2013, 08:02 AM
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Tournament Poker Tracker/Discussion
I play a good amount of tournaments and was wondering if anyone would be interested in following along with my results, discussing hands, etc. I currently keep all of my results in a book (I know that's old school) but I figured it might be interesting to track them on here and discuss hands, certain spots, tournaments, etc with fellow PA poker players. Is this something anyone would be interested in reading and chiming in with their two cents?
Last edited by ManU918; 08-30-2013 at 08:05 AM.
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08-30-2013, 08:52 AM
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I was never much of a tournament player, but I played a lot of cash games on line. I am willing to throw in my opinion for what it is worth on hands.
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08-30-2013, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
I was never much of a tournament player, but I played a lot of cash games on line. I am willing to throw in my opinion for what it is worth on hands.
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Ugh..took a beating last nite in our (thankfully) low-stakes hi-low game. Ever have one of those nights where you just do everything wrong AND you're not getting much in the way of cards? Tried to bluff a guy with a 9-high low (usually takes no more than 8 to win) and got bluffed myself by a pair! Another pot I could have stayed in for another few bucks but folded and would have won a decent pot Pot odds!! 
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08-30-2013, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ManU918
I play a good amount of tournaments and was wondering if anyone would be interested in following along with my results, discussing hands, etc. I currently keep all of my results in a book (I know that's old school) but I figured it might be interesting to track them on here and discuss hands, certain spots, tournaments, etc with fellow PA poker players. Is this something anyone would be interested in reading and chiming in with their two cents?
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I'd love it! 
I enjoy talking poker and analyzing hands.
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08-30-2013, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ManU918
I play a good amount of tournaments and was wondering if anyone would be interested in following along with my results, discussing hands, etc. I currently keep all of my results in a book (I know that's old school) but I figured it might be interesting to track them on here and discuss hands, certain spots, tournaments, etc with fellow PA poker players. Is this something anyone would be interested in reading and chiming in with their two cents?
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Go ahead..
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whereof one cannot speak thereof one must be silent
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08-30-2013, 04:52 PM
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Harrah's Philly 8/30
Buy-in: $175
Starting Stack:20,000
Blinds:25 minutes
Usually I don't play on Friday's but I was in the mood today and since Miss ManU gets done work at 3 and has a mani/pedi appointment at 4:45 I figured even if I lasted to the later stages/final tabled, I could still get home before her (She wont be around tomorrow so we will most likely chill or grab something to eat tonight).
It's weird around here... Parx or Sands don't run Friday tournaments. I understand why, but I still disagree with it. I didn't feel like fighting the shore traffic to get to the Boragta for their $300 Friday 25K guaranteed daily tournament, so I kept it local and went to Harrah's for the their $175 double green chip bounty tournament. I'm not big on bounty's but I didn't feel like driving to Delaware Park for a $65 buy-in.
Obviously it didn't turn out to well or I would still be there... Here are the key hands...
Blinds: 25/50 - Position: UG - Hand: AcAs
Early in the tournament 7 handed...I raise to 275 and get four callers.... Flop comes Kd-7h-2s rainbow... I bet 1k... folds around to the button who calls... Turn is 3c... I bet 3k... button calls... river is 9d.... I bet 7K.... Button tanks and says, "I really hope you didn't just hit two pair"... I start to think to myself, he has AK this pot is mine.... about a minute later he calls and flips over 2-3 off-suit.... Down to 9500 after four hands...
Blinds:150/300/25 - Position: Button - Hand: KdJd
9 handed... UG raises it to 1k... by the time it gets to me 3 people have called... This is the best hand I have seen since the AA hand and my stack is heading south at 7500 so I call... SB and BB both call...6225 in the pot pre-flop.... Flop comes Kh-9h-5s... checks to raiser who bets 3k.... folds around to cutoff who ships it for about 30K...I think about it for about 30 seconds and decide to ship it for my remaining stack of 6500.... everyone else folds and I'm all-in with 22,225 in the middle... cutoff turns over 8-9... My hand holds up.
Blinds:200/400/50 - Position: Button - Hand: AsKc
8 handed... 4 callers by the time it gets to me...I play AK weird, sometimes I raise sometimes I just call to try to throw people off... I just call with a stack of 23K... SB raises it to 1600... 3 players fold 1 caller (hijack).. I call... If I miss I can get away as the BB has a nice stack and the hijack has us both covered. Flop comes Ks-8d-3d... SB bets 5k with 12k behind.... hijack folds....I ship it hoping to get a call and take his $50 bounty.... He calls but unfortunately he turns over AA... I don't catch up and now down to 4400....
Blinds: 300/600/75 - Position: Cutoff - Hand: AsQs
8 handed... UG+2 raised it to 2k....Folds around to me... AQ suited is the best hand that I have seen in a few orbits... I shipped it for 4400... The button asks for a count...I look at him and say give me some protection... He flat calls... folds to the original raiser who ships it for 28K.... I look at the button and say I told you, you should have protected me... He tanks for 3 minutes.... He calls 28k of his remaining 31K with Ad10d.... Original raiser has KdKc.... Flop comes three diamonds and that's all she wrote.
Today: -$175 Overall: -$175
Last edited by ManU918; 08-30-2013 at 04:57 PM.
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08-30-2013, 06:39 PM
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Why not rename this thread "the war stories" thread......?!?!?!
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08-30-2013, 07:29 PM
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Hand one. Raising UTG in a 7 handed game even with AA is a mistake especially early in fast tournament. You should limp and look for any excuse to fold unless you hit the flop. If one of the blind (or the button) pulls one of those big raises pre flop in an attempt to steal the pot after a bunch of limpers, you should re-raise all in.
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08-30-2013, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
Hand one. Raising UTG in a 7 handed game even with AA is a mistake especially early in fast tournament. You should limp and look for any excuse to fold unless you hit the flop. If one of the blind (or the button) pulls one of those big raises pre flop in an attempt to steal the pot after a bunch of limpers, you should re-raise all in.
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I disagree somewhat in that I don't believe that was the major issue. A stronger bet on the flop would have pushed a pair of deuces to the sidelines. You have AAK in your hand with no apparent straight or flush, then bet them. A grand bet allowed the guy to limp into the turn and pull off two pair.
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08-30-2013, 07:48 PM
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Hand #3 was played by the SB exactly as I believe you should have played hand #1 after the flop. A strong raise by the SB of $5k with AAK. Don't mess around at tables with 7-9 guys playing. Too much can go wrong. Get in and get out. I might have called him too, so I think you made the right play in that hand otherwise.
Last edited by tucker6; 08-30-2013 at 07:50 PM.
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08-30-2013, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
I disagree somewhat in that I don't believe that was the major issue. A stronger bet on the flop would have pushed a pair of deuces to the sidelines. You have AAK in your hand with no apparent straight or flush, then bet them. A grand bet allowed the guy to limp into the turn and pull off two pair.
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A 2.5 K bet on would probably chase any pairs outs. The problem is with 4 callers pre flop, there is some chance a set is out there. In which case you will be out the tournament. The key is avoid situations where if you win a little , but if you lose, you lose a lot. AA out of position is just asking for trouble. Try very hard to avoid as much trouble as possible with it.
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08-30-2013, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
Hand #3 was played by the SB exactly as I believe you should have played hand #1 after the flop. A strong raise by the SB of $5k with AAK. Don't mess around at tables with 7-9 guys playing. Too much can go wrong. Get in and get out. I might have called him too, so I think you made the right play in that hand otherwise.
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Didn't the SB fold in hand #3?
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08-30-2013, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
A 2.5 K bet on would probably chase any pairs outs. The problem is with 4 callers pre flop, there is some chance a set is out there. In which case you will be out the tournament. The key is avoid situations where if you win a little , but if you lose, you lose a lot. AA out of position is just asking for trouble. Try very hard to avoid as much trouble as possible with it.
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There was $1,450 in the pot...so the $2,500 bet is uncalled for, IMO. I might bet $1,200 there...but that's about it. You got aces and there is a king out there...so you are looking for some kind of action from a guy who might be holding a king. That flop was the best you could hope for with pocket aces.
Once the hand gets heads up, you are a big favorite...and you are very unlucky to lose the pot to two pairs.
I think he played the hand fine. You can't get paranoid with pocket aces when the board is non-threatening and there are no raises. He could have made a smaller bet on the river...but that wouldn't have made much difference.
Bad luck...
Last edited by thaskalos; 08-30-2013 at 08:23 PM.
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08-30-2013, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
Hand #3 was played by the SB exactly as I believe you should have played hand #1 after the flop. A strong raise by the SB of $5k with AAK. Don't mess around at tables with 7-9 guys playing. Too much can go wrong. Get in and get out. I might have called him too, so I think you made the right play in that hand otherwise.
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The pot is 3k by the time it gets to the small blind pre flop. With AA there, I(SB) raise at least 15k or this case all in. I want at most one other caller pre flop. The button with AK is on the spot whether one of the limpers calls or not.
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08-30-2013, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
There was $1,450 in the pot...so the $2,500 bet is uncalled for, IMO. I might bet $1,200 there...but that's about it. You got aces and there is a king out there...so you are looking for some kind of action from a guy who might be holding a king. That flop was the best you could hope for with pocket aces.
Once the hand gets heads up, you are a big favorite...and you are very unlucky to lose the pot to two pairs.
I think he played the hand fine. You can't get paranoid with pocket aces when the board is non-threatening and there are no raises. He could have made a smaller bet on the river...but that wouldn't have made much difference.
Bad luck...
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$1200 is not going to chase out all the pairs post flop. I wouldn't get into that mess to start with. In the hand as played, while 2.5k bet chases the pairs, I check call and pray. With AA, I want to get heads up pre flop. other wise I am looking for a way out as cheap as possible.. I have been nailed by too many players who "setted" on the flop and then played possum.
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