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08-09-2013, 08:58 AM
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Japan says Fukushima leak worse than thought
They are contemplating Freezing an area of Earth nearly 1 mile across, seemingly permanantly to stop the leak.This has never been attempted on this scale.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...97601K20130807
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08-09-2013, 11:03 AM
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It was never worse than I thought. It is exactly as I and many thought at the time. Anyone who believed the party line of the Japanese at the time were drunk on saki. When a core melts through the concrete and enters the earth, you've lost containment on an elemental level and there's no getting it back.
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08-09-2013, 11:07 AM
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Sad how this story is just about completely ignored, but we get massive coverage today about Beyonce's new do.
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08-09-2013, 09:36 PM
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Who was the user in off topic who was telling us that there was no reason not to believe the official word coming out of Japan at the time of this accident?
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08-09-2013, 09:54 PM
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we'll never see this frozen earth, science fiction idea put into action. Typical Japanese response to a crisis. Pick a farfetched idea to create public sympathy/pride for the technical struggle, and then spring a less inspiring solution that is more in line with actual capabilities. The public will forgive because the alternative was too demanding. Everyone saves face, which is the Japanese way of things.
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08-10-2013, 12:56 AM
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Radioactive water... and we end up with.
All joking aside this is f*cked up... I figured they be dumping sand and pumping concrete into that hole. Not pouring radiation into the Ocean. If the US had done this the International outcry would be deafening.
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08-10-2013, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by OntheRail
All joking aside this is f*cked up... I figured they be dumping sand and pumping concrete into that hole. Not pouring radiation into the Ocean. If the US had done this the International outcry would be deafening.
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You can be certain both the US and Japanese govts knew of this leak all the time. The worldwide nuclear agency (IAEA) monitors things like radiation levels constantly, and would have known before the fishermen reported it, and likely as soon as the leak occurred. We're not talking stupid, incompetent people here. So, collectively, the world is okay with some people getting ill from radiation poisoning if it protects industry and govts from having to face their mistakes.
Here's a recent article on the IAEA website that discusses their taking over radiactive remediation for the next 3 years at this site.
http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/...fukushima.html
Last edited by tucker6; 08-10-2013 at 07:33 AM.
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08-10-2013, 12:11 PM
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You can be certain both the US and Japanese govts knew of this leak all the time.
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Of course they did.
They took care to protect their own interests and people and screwed the rest of the world.
As has always been the role of all governments.
But wouldn't it be great to see a Godzilla come out of the sea and attack DC?
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08-10-2013, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Of course they did.
They took care to protect their own interests and people and screwed the rest of the world.
As has always been the role of all governments.
But wouldn't it be great to see a Godzilla come out of the sea and attack DC?
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You'd think the terrorists would be smart enough to bait some radiation in the Pacific and create a Godzilla. Would save lots of time and effort training to fight us everywhere. Everyone knows Godzilla only attacks world capitals. 
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08-10-2013, 04:21 PM
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Geography
Japan is still way-the-f' over there, right?
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08-10-2013, 04:35 PM
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Japan is still way-the-f' over there, right?
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I'm not sure that was the point. The point is that both the Japanese and American govts withheld vital health information from the locals over there (yes, it's still way the heck over there just beyond the horizon), and waited until they had face-saving methods in place before "warning" of a leak. Up until now, they had denied the leak existed. However, if you read the fine print from the article I posted about the IAEA, you can discern that they were asked to assist as early as last year to help with this "non leak".
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08-11-2013, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Japan is still way-the-f' over there, right?
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Didn't tsunami wreckage eventually wash up on the western shores of the USA? Took a while, but it got there...
What's the half life of the stuff that's been leaking into the ocean for over TWO YEARS now? Think it won't make it our way?
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08-11-2013, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Sad how this story is just about completely ignored, but we get massive coverage today about Beyonce's new do.
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Could you post a link please? 
But, seriously, I think if the trail of money is followed (Uranium futures, new nuke plant construction - Bechtel, and politicians etc who own large stakes in such industry)- it will be clear how much information is always swept under the carpet and hidden from public view.
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12-08-2013, 03:10 PM
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“The estimated radiation level is the highest ever detected outside reactor buildings. People exposed to this level of radiation would die within 20 minutes.”
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/engli...131207_01.html
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02-21-2014, 06:15 AM
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New Leak.....
New highly radioactive leak at Japan's Fukushima plant
"100 metric tons of highly contaminated water had leaked out of a tank, the worst incident since last August, when a series of radioactive water leaks sparked international alarm"
http://news.yahoo.com/highly-radioac...--finance.html
This is getting way out of control......Suggest you all read some of the comments....
Yes some are way over the top but I believe there are some spot on....
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