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Old 12-25-2017, 01:04 PM   #1351
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On dirt, the horses with the best turn of foot are typically the front runners.
Yes, when you allow the closers to sit close, you are playing in to their advantage.
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Old 12-25-2017, 01:23 PM   #1352
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When I bet the "fast-closing" horse on the turf...the pace-setter goes wire-to-wire. And when I bet the speedster, then the closers charge from everywhere...as if it were a cowboys-and-Indians movie.
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When I bet the "fast-closing" horse on the turf...the pace-setter goes wire-to-wire. And when I bet the speedster, then the closers charge from everywhere...as if it were a cowboys-and-Indians movie.
Ain't that the truth. I still think the best strategy for turf routes is the same as dirt routes, look for horses that can finish but don't figure to be more than a few lengths behind the pacesetters. In any race at any distance, if the horse you like doesn't figure to be within two or three lengths of the lead at the quarter pole, or on the lead, then pass the race.
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Old 12-26-2017, 08:24 PM   #1354
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Hope a few listened in, a few stinkers early but City of Light was nice.
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Old 12-27-2017, 01:54 AM   #1355
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It's nice to see the TimeformUS Pace Figures now included with Formulator, but why not the most important element - the TimeformUS Speed Figures for the race and horse?

I'm sure that answer to the above question has more or less to do with Beyer's contract with DRF, thus the TFUS Speed - for now - remains the bastion of the TFUS PPs. However, it would be nice (and convenient) for the Formulator player to have the option to switch between Beyer Figures and TFUS Speed Figures.

That being said, is there a timetable for the eventual inclusion of the TFUS Speed Figure into Formulator?
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I just got Timeform pps for today and noticed that there are no condensed sheets. Have they been eliminated?
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I just got Timeform pps for today and noticed that there are no condensed sheets. Have they been eliminated?
they are under the "print" option, only after the card has gone final with odds.
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Old 12-27-2017, 12:33 PM   #1358
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Hope a few listened in, a few stinkers early but City of Light was nice.
You guys did a great job explaining it (and nice pick on City of Light). I agree with you about Kevin Durant.
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I just got Timeform pps for today and noticed that there are no condensed sheets. Have they been eliminated?
Once again I bought the Timeform pps for today, and there is no condensed sheet under Print. Are they being eliminated?
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Once again I bought the Timeform pps for today, and there is no condensed sheet under Print. Are they being eliminated?
No. What track? I'll find out what is going on.
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It's missing on all of the tracks.
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It's missing on all of the tracks.
I see them, checked every track. Do you have any browser extensions installed or something like that? Maybe clear cache and retry.
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I'm accessing it from PABETS. When I put my cursor on Print the only thing in the drop box is "single race". It usually shows condensed in there.
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I'm accessing it from PABETS. When I put my cursor on Print the only thing in the drop box is "single race". It usually shows condensed in there.
I'll forward to this to someone that can help. I know nothing about PA Bets. Going to send you a PM to help in the interim.
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I've made a slight change to off track (Mud, Slop, Soft, Yielding) speed figures.

https://timeformusblog.com/2018/01/0...speed-figures/
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