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Old 07-05-2018, 06:26 PM   #1
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I'm going to UNLOAD on Mendelssohn

on Saturday.

What do you think?
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Old 07-05-2018, 08:36 PM   #3
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:06 PM   #5
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on Saturday.

What do you think?
I wonder what your reasoning is.

And I wish you luck.

And I wonder why the hell the NYRA linemaker made Rugbyman 2/1 and Noble Indy a higher 7/2?? Looks like they were handicapping their opinion instead of the public. -Betting against Noble Indy, perhaps with a horse like Rugbyman was one of the reasons to play the Dwyer. Now you've got social proof working the wrong way against a popular underlay...
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:13 PM   #6
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And he made Catholic Boy 4th choice in the Belmont Derby ml ??


The morning line is supposed to set the table.


You don't ****ing correct for underlays.
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:14 PM   #7
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I wonder what your reasoning is.

And I wish you luck.

And I wonder why the hell the NYRA linemaker made Rugbyman 2/1 and Noble Indy a higher 7/2?? Looks like they were handicapping their opinion instead of the public. -Betting against Noble Indy, perhaps with a horse like Rugbyman was one of the reasons to play the Dwyer. Now you've got social proof working the wrong way against a popular underlay...
NYRA linemaker is David Aragona now for what it is worth. He took over during this winter if I remember correctly. I have noticed since then that he isn't afraid to make horses below 1-1 on the ML at AQU/BEL/SAR. Seems as if he isn't a conventional ML maker.
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NYRA linemaker is David Aragona now for what it is worth. He took over during this winter if I remember correctly. I have noticed since then that he isn't afraid to make horses below 1-1 on the ML at AQU/BEL/SAR. Seems as if he isn't a conventional ML maker.
If it's really David Aragona I take back some of the harshness of my criticism. He is a smart guy, who I respect.

Not exactly the morning line I was hoping for when I looked at the form after seeing this thread, but I'm sure he knows how to make a line, and has had good mentors, and I'm sure he has a reasoning behind how he did what he did.
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Old 07-06-2018, 02:23 PM   #9
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I wonder what your reasoning is.

And I wish you luck.

And I wonder why the hell the NYRA linemaker made Rugbyman 2/1 and Noble Indy a higher 7/2?? Looks like they were handicapping their opinion instead of the public. -Betting against Noble Indy, perhaps with a horse like Rugbyman was one of the reasons to play the Dwyer. Now you've got social proof working the wrong way against a popular underlay...

Since June 9th the Morning Line Favorites less than 3-1 have been winning at a 50% rate in Stakes races on both Dirt and Turf!!!



I will be keeping a close watch on the linemaker's Morning Line Favorites less than 3-1 in Stakes races tomorrow!!!

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I have also noticed a strange phenomenon where the linemaker's Morning Line Favorites ends in 5 and Brown is the Trainer on the Turf at Belmont

The last 16 times it happened Brown's horse finished 2nd 10 times, that's quite a number of Exacta's with his horse underneath!!!



I am not sure of the Exacta payouts but I would imagine they were very profitable!!!

He has a place parlay of 10 in a row in this situation if I didn't know any better I would say he's doing it on purpose!!!

At any rate, let's also keep eye on the 5ers (Morning Lines ending with 5) on the Turf whenever Brown is the Trainer at Belmont!!!

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Old 07-06-2018, 06:24 PM   #11
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Mendelssohn's only proof of being proficient on dirt was the golden rail effort in Dubai, where the jockey urged him to the front.

He could win and live up to the hype, but he's hard to trust.
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And he made Catholic Boy 4th choice in the Belmont Derby ml ??


The morning line is supposed to set the table.


You don't ****ing correct for underlays.
I hit Catholic Boy, so no disagreement there . . .

My brother claims Justify will never ever lose again because he's that good!

I suffer from JDS-- Justify Derangement Syndrome.

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Old 07-06-2018, 07:16 PM   #13
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Mendelssohn is a good horse. I'm with Letswastemoney in that I don't know how good.

Maybe this race is a cakewalk for him. No world-beaters in the field.
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Old 07-06-2018, 07:26 PM   #14
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Not impressed with this field at all
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Mendelssohn's only proof of being proficient on dirt was the golden rail effort in Dubai, where the jockey urged him to the front.

He could win and live up to the hype, but he's hard to trust.
I'm off . He is an Ungelded Funnycide.
He was a 50-1 nobody who ran 2nd to US Navy Flag in the 1st G1 Darley Dewhurst. US Navy Flag is since 0-5 and done nothing. He got a trip from God in BC JuvTurf. Freaked in Dubia and thats that.

Its Rugbyman. He spotted the field 3 lengths in the Easygoer. Ran wide as well.
The winner and 2nd place finisher from his first race, both came back and won next out.

They are putting Blinkers on to keep him focused. I have Rugyman by 3 lengths over anybody in here.

I predict Seahenge pass's Mendelssohn tommorrow.
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