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02-13-2024, 08:43 AM
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The arbitrator for HISA didn't believe Wong's excuses - as reported by The Paulick Report. And then Wong said something about the horse's groom using metformin. But he told Paulick that he was using metformin.
This is from the Paulick Report -
The arbitrator also found Wong's credibility to be lacking, because the trainer originally told the Paulick Report he may have been the source of the metformin positive, stating he had been prescribed metformin in 2022. He later claimed he'd never spoken to publisher Ray Paulick, who wrote the article quoting Wong.
"Mr. Wong has been untruthful in this proceeding," wrote the arbitrator. "He has stated that he never even spoke to Paulick. This is a demonstrably false statement. As a result of this testimony, together with other parts of his testimony, I find Mr. Wong’s credibility greatly diminished."
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02-13-2024, 06:27 PM
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Metformin? Does what for the horse?
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02-13-2024, 06:41 PM
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Not saying it was intentional but I've been told one of the side effects is it can help shred body fat (excess weight.)
A Google search for Metformin and performance in sports turned up the following study:
Acute effect of metformin on exercise capacity in active males:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17970761/
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Results: During the graded exercise test, average oxygen consumption was higher for the metformin condition (2.9 vs. 2.8 l/min, p = 0.04); however, there was no treatment effect on VO2max or ventilatory threshold. During continuous exercise, lactate was lower for the metformin condition (4.7 vs. 5.4 mmol/l, p = 0.05). Following a standardized lunch, glucose concentrations were lower in the metformin compared with the placebo condition (5.8 vs. 6.4 mmol/l, p = 0.04).
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Based on that I can see why it's a banned substance for thoroughbred racing.
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02-13-2024, 09:38 PM
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Wong ran a horse at FG today. Ran 3rd. Is Louisiana exempt from the ruling?
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02-13-2024, 10:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyK@HSH
Wong ran a horse at FG today. Ran 3rd. Is Louisiana exempt from the ruling?
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LA and WV are exempt from HISA as of now due to lawsuits over HISA’s legality
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02-14-2024, 08:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff P
Not saying it was intentional but I've been told one of the side effects is it can help shred body fat (excess weight.)
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Doesn't work on me...using it 15+ years 
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02-14-2024, 08:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by racenomics
LA and WV are exempt from HISA as of now due to lawsuits over HISA’s legality
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Of course. Lol.
Racing is so dysfunctional.
What a train wreck.
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02-14-2024, 11:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saratoga
Doesn't work on me...using it 15+ years |
Didn’t make me lose any weight. Took it for 2 years
Don’t take it anymore
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02-14-2024, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruffian1
Of course. Lol.
Racing is so dysfunctional.
What a train wreck.
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Two things can be true at once. Racing can be in (dire) need of strict, uniform oversight, and Hisa can be a poorly conceived, unworkable, tone-deaf morass of red tape (and sometimes questionable intentions).
Man is closer right now to colonizing Mars than to forming a smart and effective ruling body for racing. And that's from a racing official of some 35 years who has LONG advocated stiffer penalties for drug offenders. Much stiffer.
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02-14-2024, 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainman
Two things can be true at once. Racing can be in (dire) need of strict, uniform oversight, and Hisa can be a poorly conceived, unworkable, tone-deaf morass of red tape (and sometimes questionable intentions).
Man is closer right now to colonizing Mars than to forming a smart and effective ruling body for racing. And that's from a racing official of some 35 years who has LONG advocated stiffer penalties for drug offenders. Much stiffer.
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I couldn’t agree more. I trained for 25 years. Drugs and the 10 days for mistakes or blatant cheating made me sick. Our leading trainer racked up 6 or 7 positives ,Waited for Timonium and went on vacation while lumping them all together.
What an embarrassment racing became with the drug stuff starting in the late eighties. It took the fun out of the game for me.
I never dreamt that could happen.
The stories I bet we could share between Md. racing and where you work.
Oh my !
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