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05-10-2021, 12:36 PM
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Just another example of liberalism's idea of utopia. Liberalism truly is a disease of man's mind, heart and soul.
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05-10-2021, 01:08 PM
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You should have seen how dilapidated it was when I went there with a Zoology flied trip in 1966....Horrible
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05-10-2021, 03:59 PM
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Just another example of liberalism's idea of utopia.[sic]
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Wrong. The homeless problem is a direct result of the Reagan administrations idea of Utopia. Reagan shut down mental hospitals and built prisons. An excellent example lies less than 20 from my boyhood home in Oklahoma. What was once a hospital is now a prison. As you drive past the prison there are "do not stop" signs on the highway. About ten years ago I was driving past the prison when the engine overheated and stopped. Within seconds the prison guards were all over me.
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05-10-2021, 04:29 PM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by Actor
Wrong. The homeless problem is a direct result of the Reagan administrations idea of Utopia. Reagan shut down mental hospitals and built prisons. An excellent example lies less than 20 from my boyhood home in Oklahoma. What was once a hospital is now a prison. As you drive past the prison there are "do not stop" signs on the highway. About ten years ago I was driving past the prison when the engine overheated and stopped. Within seconds the prison guards were all over me.
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Stop being stupid. Only about 25% of homeless are seriously mentally ill.
Less than half have “any mental illness at all” according to the most recent numbers.
I’ve dealt with homeless from LA to Baltimore and still have to put up with some here in Texas. Homeless camps being accepted, government funds supporting the lifestyle and the overall acceptance of drug culture is what causes the homeless problem.
In other words liberal policies.
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05-10-2021, 04:42 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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How did Reagan close STATE hospitals?
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05-10-2021, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
How did Reagan close STATE hospitals?
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By withholding FEDERAL funding.
The federal government funds just about anything to one degree or another. Take education. There was a big deal some years ago about the influence that the federal government had in schools. Any college or university that received any federal funding had to toe the line with the federal government. Colleges and universities were surprised to find that having just one student receiving aid from a federal source meant that the college was receiving federal funding. So said the courts.
So if just one patient was receiving federal aid (for example, a veteran with PTSD) then the federal government could control the hospital.
Of all the 50 states Oklahoma has the most inmates per capita. I think this is simply because they have room in the prisons. I.e., they have less incentive to parole inmates to reduce overcrowding.
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05-10-2021, 05:22 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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8 years of Clinton
8 years of OBama
blah blah blah......
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05-10-2021, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Only about 25% of homeless are seriously mentally ill.
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The same as the general population.
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Less than half have “any mental illness at all” according to the most recent numbers.
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What is your source for all these statistics?
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Homeless camps being accepted, government funds supporting the lifestyle ...
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Not here in Ohio.
You call homelessness a lifestyle?
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05-10-2021, 05:44 PM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by Actor
The same as the general population.
What is your source for all these statistics?
Not here in Ohio.
You call homelessness a lifestyle?
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source https://mentalillnesspolicy.org/cons...are%20Homeless
Many homeless live on the street for years and years. They panhandle etc. They take handouts from regular people and groups for years at a time. That is a lifestyle.
In California in the early 2000's I personally watched the city workers cut the flowers and trees on exit ramps to hide the camps. And they would admit it straight out.
In Baltimore as a hospital security supervisor I dealt with homeless every day. most of the long termers are getting food stamps (which they trade for drugs and cash) and they use hospitals/group homes as bridges to their next crisis where they don't enough enough cash etc.
I know this problem inside and out. I dealt with it in Ohio, in Columbus too. So I know Ohio too....albeit not in the last ten years or so.......
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05-10-2021, 06:03 PM
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I am waiting for someone to come on here and blame it on the Herbert Hoover administration.
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05-12-2021, 10:12 AM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
source https://mentalillnesspolicy.org/cons...are%20Homeless
Many homeless live on the street for years and years. They panhandle etc. They take handouts from regular people and groups for years at a time. That is a lifestyle.
In California in the early 2000's I personally watched the city workers cut the flowers and trees on exit ramps to hide the camps. And they would admit it straight out.
In Baltimore as a hospital security supervisor I dealt with homeless every day. most of the long termers are getting food stamps (which they trade for drugs and cash) and they use hospitals/group homes as bridges to their next crisis where they don't enough enough cash etc.
I know this problem inside and out. I dealt with it in Ohio, in Columbus too. So I know Ohio too....albeit not in the last ten years or so.......
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Sure is quiet in here? Did you get educated?
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05-12-2021, 10:34 AM
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velocitician
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Little Ronnie's very first move a governor was to raise all our tuitions at the UC system
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05-12-2021, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Little Ronnie's very first move a governor was to raise all our tuitions at the UC system
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Did that make you cry?
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05-12-2021, 10:57 AM
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velocitician
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Originally Posted by xtb
Did that make you cry?
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no it just informed me what was ahead with the ex radio sports announcer
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