Where did all the horses go?

[Track Phantom]

What would be very illuminating is if someone can compare how many horses each trainer has in training at Santa Anita vs how many they've entered. It would be interesting to know which trainers are not entering horses that fit conditions. To me, this is the root of the issue in So. Cal.

[whodoyoulike]

Originally Posted by Track Phantom

What would be very illuminating is if someone can compare how many horses each trainer has in training at Santa Anita vs how many they've entered. It would be interesting to know which trainers are not entering horses that fit conditions. To me, this is the root of the issue in So. Cal.

Also for me, it would be more interesting to find out .... Why they are not entering horses that fit the conditions?

Do they all have some type of injury?

Because I've always felt that most (not all) horses have something physical or mentally wrong with them.

[Andy Asaro]

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[mountainman]

Originally Posted by Track Phantom

What would be very illuminating is if someone can compare how many horses each trainer has in training at Santa Anita vs how many they've entered. It would be interesting to know which trainers are not entering horses that fit conditions. To me, this is the root of the issue in So. Cal.

You're getting warm. Fast.

[Andy Asaro]

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Couldn't post them without the one tweet repeating. Sorry.

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[oughtoh]

Alot of the horses are not racing waiting for Del Mar to start. That is the way it is every year.

[GMB@BP]

Those are very interesting comments.

[Andy Asaro]

This was the projection from SB1072 when they raised the takeout for Customer subsidized purse welfare.

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[Andy Asaro]

Ritvo just gave a good interview on TVG and said all the right things. Now the hard part........ doing the right things.

Got this from a well known Owner on my email list for what it's worth. This is a very smart guy/gal.

How to fix this: 1.0 The basic problem is the minimum purses are too low. Any horse that runs at least third once a month will earn $3,600 if the minimum purse is $30,000. That would at least pay the monthly bills for the horse. For any purse less than $30,000 all horses racing in those races are GUARANTEED losers for the month unless they win or finish second. How many owners can keep horses in California knowing they are guaranteed to lose money every month. 2.) The vacant parking lot north of Santa Anita should be turned into a stabling area and housing for backstretch workers. ( before it becomes a hospital parking lot) 3.) As a temporary solution Adena Springs should ship a hundred or more of their horses here now. ( It's Frank's venue and the value of the venue will only increase if the quality and quantity of racing improves. ) Horses will flock here if the minimum purse is at least $30,000. Either Frank needs to seed the purse pool or a serious re-distribution of purse money has to happen and soon...............or The Great Race Place will soon be home to office buildings.

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

Ritvo just gave a good interview on TVG and said all the right things. Now the hard part........ doing the right things.

Got this from a well known Owner on my email list for what it's worth. This is a very smart guy/gal.

How to fix this: 1.0 The basic problem is the minimum purses are too low. Any horse that runs at least third once a month will earn $3,600 if the minimum purse is $30,000. That would at least pay the monthly bills for the horse. For any purse less than $30,000 all horses racing in those races are GUARANTEED losers for the month unless they win or finish second. How many owners can keep horses in California knowing they are guaranteed to lose money every month. 2.) The vacant parking lot north of Santa Anita should be turned into a stabling area and housing for backstretch workers. ( before it becomes a hospital parking lot) 3.) As a temporary solution Adena Springs should ship a hundred or more of their horses here now. ( It's Frank's venue and the value of the venue will only increase if the quality and quantity of racing improves. ) Horses will flock here if the minimum purse is at least $30,000. Either Frank needs to seed the purse pool or a serious re-distribution of purse money has to happen and soon...............or The Great Race Place will soon be home to office buildings.

They ran 9 races today and only 2 races had a purse less then 29k....I dont understand, in a larger picture, the comment about the min purses.

Now I would agree that the economic dynamics in socal make it more difficult to pay the bills.

I see tons of short fields, feels like an industry wide epidemic.

[oughtoh]

When Del Mar starts most of fields will be bigger. Alot of the owners want winner circle pictues at Del Mar and will drop their horses in value to try and get one. They also offer out of state owners an incentive.

[cj]

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

Ritvo just gave a good interview on TVG and said all the right things. Now the hard part........ doing the right things.

Got this from a well known Owner on my email list for what it's worth. This is a very smart guy/gal.

How to fix this: 1.0 The basic problem is the minimum purses are too low. Any horse that runs at least third once a month will earn $3,600 if the minimum purse is $30,000. That would at least pay the monthly bills for the horse. For any purse less than $30,000 all horses racing in those races are GUARANTEED losers for the month unless they win or finish second. How many owners can keep horses in California knowing they are guaranteed to lose money every month. 2.) The vacant parking lot north of Santa Anita should be turned into a stabling area and housing for backstretch workers. ( before it becomes a hospital parking lot) 3.) As a temporary solution Adena Springs should ship a hundred or more of their horses here now. ( It's Frank's venue and the value of the venue will only increase if the quality and quantity of racing improves. ) Horses will flock here if the minimum purse is at least $30,000. Either Frank needs to seed the purse pool or a serious re-distribution of purse money has to happen and soon...............or The Great Race Place will soon be home to office buildings.

Problem is you can't have 30k purses for 8 and 10k claimers. That is just asking for big trouble.

[Andy Asaro]

Originally Posted by cj

Problem is you can't have 30k purses for 8 and 10k claimers. That is just asking for big trouble.

The person who wrote it is pretty sharp and knows a lot about ca. racing. But, I suspect we'll hear about some changes by Thursday. Maybe Wednesday.

[cj]

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro

The person who wrote it is pretty sharp and knows a lot about ca. racing. But, I suspect we'll hear about some changes by Thursday. Maybe Wednesday.

I'm sure he is sharp, but we already know what happens when you inflate purses for cheap claimers and it isn't pretty.