Jobs? What jobs?

[Burls]

Originally Posted by highnote

The contractors will make a lot by building the plant, though.

Any idea who is doing the construction?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the contract went to Kushner Construction, a division of Kushner Companies LLC.
The process was a sealed bid arrangement.

[highnote]

Originally Posted by Burls

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the contract went to Kushner Construction, a division of Kushner Companies LLC.
The process was a sealed bid arrangement.

If that is true, all I can say is

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Burls

Why?
I've only summarized the BASIC ECONOMIC FACTS that every country in the modern world has been aware of since the end of the nineteenth Century.

They don't apply in Trump world.

[Tom]

And they said this while chastising me for not being well
informed! LOL

Pandy, try this.......

[Tom]

Questions:
1) How much more will the American companies that manufacture things out of aluminum have to pay for their raw materials as a result of the 10% tariff on aluminum imported into America?

Well, they are build a brand new mill with maybe the widest capability in NA, so I am guessing the old one going out of business is not a factor here. You can make money in new modern plant where you could not in an older one with 1970s technology.

And when I was buying aluminum, or any metals, I only bought from USA mills. Period. NEVER from overseas. Not for any reason.
I specified it on the PO. And I sent out a list of approved US mills that could be used.

So your long post mocking the building of the new plant seems pretty much like nya nya nya nya to me. A lot of investigation went into this decision and some kind on the internet knows better.

NOT relying on foreign metals is a good thing.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Burls

Why?
I've only summarized the BASIC ECONOMIC FACTS that every country in the modern world has been aware of since the end of the nineteenth Century.

Get that out of Economics for Dummies did you?

The aluminum mill, known as Braidy Atlas, will employ about 550 workers and is set for its first production in a just a couple years, where it will be the world’s lowest cost aluminum plant, according to Kentucky Today. Already, Braidy Atlas executives say their first seven years of aluminum production are sold out

550 jobs for Americans
Lowest cost aluminum plant = efficiency
7 years of production already sold

Gawd! someone stop this madness!
You whiners are a joke.
Get ready to choke on the mid terms.
THIS is the ONLY stuff voters give a shot about.

As you will find out.....AGAIN!

[highnote]

Originally Posted by Burls

Why?
I've only summarized the BASIC ECONOMIC FACTS that every country in the modern world has been aware of since the end of the nineteenth Century.

According to some research I did this evening:

The Trump admin caved to political pressure from Alcoa. Canada and Mexico will be exempt from the 10% tax on aluminum that the U.S. imports from them. 63% of U.S. aluminum imports come from Canada.

Bauxite is the ore used to produce aluminum. Even if U.S. smelters were operating at 100% capacity the majority of aluminum used in the U.S. would still need to be imported from Canada.

The Trump admin has created a process whereby companies that use aluminum can apply for an exclusion from the tariffs. The Trump administration will then decide which companies have to pay the tariffs and which do not.

There will be nothing political in those decisions.

[elysiantraveller]

This has been going on with the Commerce Departments review process.

Basically arbitrarily deciding who should and shouldn't pay taxes.

Lost by most Trumpbots is that tariffs are simply a consumption tax charged to Americans.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

This has been going on with the Commerce Departments review process.

Basically arbitrarily deciding who should and shouldn't pay taxes.

Lost by most Trumpbots is that tariffs are simply a consumption tax charged to Americans.

Bingo Now you get it, I said consumption tax here 3 or 4 times here previously.

You want to pay 70K for that car, you deserve to pay 90K
No big deal to me because I will escape that tax.
You get it now, I want you to pay instead of me.
You love China and its cheep shit, we got some special sauce for you ET.

[highnote]

Originally Posted by Tom

550 jobs for Americans
Lowest cost aluminum plant = efficiency
7 years of production already sold

This is probably reasonably true. They say the average wage will be $38/hour or $70,000 per year.

Something tells me the majority of people will make far less than $38/hr and a small number will make substantially more.

The median wage is probably closer to 30k than to 70k. But 30k is better than welfare and 30k can go a lot further in KY than NYC.

Alcoa complained that the 10% tariff would cost them $14 million per month. So they had a big incentive to convince the Trump admin to exempt Canada and Mexico from the tariffs on aluminum.

Would the KY plant be built if Canada and Mexico had to pay the 10% tariff?

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by fast4522

You love China and its cheep shit, we got some special sauce for you ET.

Special sauce?.....Dimwit sum dipshit sauce, I do believe that's it...

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

Special sauce?.....Dimwit sum dipshit sauce, I do believe that's it...

Exactly, where did you grow up RR. Not where you hail from now but the first 20 years.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by fast4522

Bingo Now you get it, I said consumption tax here 3 or 4 times here previously.

You want to pay 70K for that car, you deserve to pay 90K
No big deal to me because I will escape that tax.
You get it now, I want you to pay instead of me.
You love China and its cheep shit, we got some special sauce for you ET.

The speed at which stuff flies over your head is astounding.

I'm building a new deer blind and need nails. Unfortunately the largest American nail manufacturer is shutting down due to Trump's steel tariffs.

Pity they didn't get a Commerce Department exemption.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

The speed at which stuff flies over your head is astounding.

I'm building a new deer blind and need nails. Unfortunately the largest American nail manufacturer is shutting down due to Trump's steel tariffs.

That's cool, I am expecting you to AD yourself into the deer blind.
No one is buying your shit, believe it.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by fast4522

That's cool, I am expecting you to AD yourself into the deer blind.
No one is buying your shit, believe it.

AD?

What part don't you buy exactly? Other than nails from the Missouri nail factory?