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11-18-2021, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
pssst I hear Trump never colluded with Russia and the Steele dossier is nothing but a hunk of junk
But you never issue those corrections, now do you?
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Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Alex van der Zwaan, Richard Pinedo are all people who pleaded guilty or were otherwise convicted of crimes related to collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.
Robert Mueller never said Trump didn’t collude with Russia. He said that he wasn’t going to say because Trump was unable to defend himself and that wouldn’t be fair.
John Durham’s indictments of Michael Sussmann and Igor Denchencko are specious at best. According to the indictments, the inaccurate statements by the two men to FBI investigators caused the FBI to fail to pursue certain avenues of inquiry or to interpret certain facts incorrectly. As if the FBI would take anyone’s testimony at face value without corroborating evidence.
Two and a half years and all Durham can come up with is these cockamamie indictments.
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11-18-2021, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Alex van der Zwaan, Richard Pinedo are all people who pleaded guilty or were otherwise convicted of crimes related to collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.
Robert Mueller never said Trump didn’t collude with Russia. He said that he wasn’t going to say because Trump was unable to defend himself and that wouldn’t be fair.
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You're a liar! Mueller said he could find no proof that Trump colluded with Russia.
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11-18-2021, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
You're a liar! Mueller said he could find no proof that Trump colluded with Russia.
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He didn’t say that at all.
https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-...ueller-report/
“The Mueller Report states that if the Special Counsel’s Office felt they could clear the president of wrongdoing, they would have said so. Instead, the Report explicitly states that it “does not exonerate” the President[10] and explains that the Office of Special Counsel “accepted” the Department of Justice policy that a sitting President cannot be indicted.[11]”
From the same source.
Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
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11-20-2021, 01:48 AM
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11-20-2021, 01:51 AM
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11-20-2021, 01:55 AM
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11-20-2021, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by taxicab
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mostpost has assured us that Shoplifting is not a problem in Liberal Cities.
taxicab
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11-20-2021, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Elkchester Road
mostpost has assured us that Shoplifting is not a problem in Liberal Cities.
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You'll enjoy this one ER:
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11-20-2021, 02:18 AM
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taxicab...I did like seeing that. A good way to end the day here in Kentucky.
Many thanks.
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11-20-2021, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Alex van der Zwaan, Richard Pinedo are all people who pleaded guilty or were otherwise convicted of crimes related to collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.
Robert Mueller never said Trump didn’t collude with Russia. He said that he wasn’t going to say because Trump was unable to defend himself and that wouldn’t be fair.
John Durham’s indictments of Michael Sussmann and Igor Denchencko are specious at best. According to the indictments, the inaccurate statements by the two men to FBI investigators caused the FBI to fail to pursue certain avenues of inquiry or to interpret certain facts incorrectly. As if the FBI would take anyone’s testimony at face value without corroborating evidence.
Two and a half years and all Durham can come up with is these cockamamie indictments.
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Stick the facts. The Steele Dossier. You know...the thing that supposedly was the SMOKING GUN of Russian collusion. The thing that allowed them TO SPY ON the Trump campaign and manufacture all these meaningless charges to things nobody else on God's green earth would be convicted of...
There were no "crimes related to collusion between TRUMP and Russia"
You sir, are deranged...and a tool of Communist propaganda.
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11-20-2021, 04:07 AM
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COME ON MAN, the FBI had good reason to thoroughly investigate all aspects of these peoples lives for the last 20 years and record all phones calls. Then they could ask some obscure questions about a phone call a year ago and what they said to get a 'lying to FBI charge'. Or maybe they found some New York taxi cab license process failure. Or some money made overseas doing political consulting for an election that was not completely paid taxes on. They would never found these travesties without a thorough multimillion investigation of these people because of the 'Steele Dossier'.
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11-20-2021, 02:30 PM
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11-20-2021, 02:44 PM
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Location: Reno, NV
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The idea that the "punishment should fit the crime" has been leveraged into "crime pays" because "They aren't allowed to shoot me."
How many people who agree with that would be up in arms if THEIR PROPERTY and/or livelihood was being targeted?
I am a law-follower.
I respect laws - whether I like them or not.
Heck, I wear a mask in public, don't I? LOL
But, as far as I am concerned, we could learn a bit from the old west. "Get caught stealing my horse and you get shot."
Not complicated.
And fair.
Used to be understood by both sides of the equation, but not any more.
Just my opinion.
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