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09-28-2017, 11:15 AM
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Belmont Race #8: 9/28/17
Smile Big 10-1
Does not need the lead and the speed in this race looks suspect. Rudy and Ortiz have won a few races together. Had this filly going in the right direction, then was put on the turf and never got involved. Gets back on the dirt and the favorite is taking a very suspicious drop in class.
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I don't know about the #1 since I don't handicap but if I had to try to beat Brown's horse today I would go with D A Cannizzo's horse #8 Rachel's Temper
Cannizzo's horses have been doing well in Allowance Optional Claiming* races on the Dirt as I see it going back to May 1st 2016
It might not win but it could hit the board at a decent price
*I treat any Optional Claiming (i.e. Starter Optional Claiming, Optional Claiming,,, etc.) as Allowance Optional Claiming
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09-28-2017, 11:31 AM
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A separate thread for each longshot? Seems excessive.
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Correct, had a brain fart when I did that.
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09-28-2017, 12:26 PM
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What makes you to believe that it is a good idea to start a new thread with the same name and topic with an existing one?
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09-28-2017, 12:49 PM
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Threads merged
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09-28-2017, 02:22 PM
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Thanks PA.
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09-28-2017, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOracle
I don't know about the #1 since I don't handicap but if I had to try to beat Brown's horse today I would go with D A Cannizzo's horse #8 Rachel's Temper
Cannizzo's horses have been doing well in Allowance Optional Claiming* races on the Dirt as I see it going back to May 1st 2016
It might not win but it could hit the board at a decent price
*I treat any Optional Claiming (i.e. Starter Optional Claiming, Optional Claiming,,, etc.) as Allowance Optional Claiming
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The decision a handicapper often faces, go with the hot trainer and jockey, as you have pointed out. Or go with the guy(Rudy) who has been on a bad streak of late but can turn around at any moment. Hopefully he can get his "juice" back from Navaro.
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09-28-2017, 11:33 PM
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Belmont Race #5: 9/29/17
Cursor 8-1
Short field long price. Speed figures are a little light. Trainer or jockey do not have overwhelming numbers. Coming off a break with 3 nice works in a row. But I think this horse has 1 big advantage. The only closer in a race full of speed.
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09-29-2017, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jay68802
Belmont Race #5: 9/29/17
Cursor 8-1
Short field long price. Speed figures are a little light. Trainer or jockey do not have overwhelming numbers. Coming off a break with 3 nice works in a row. But I think this horse has 1 big advantage. The only closer in a race full of speed.
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Race went as I thought it would, and got a win. Did not think I would only get 7-2, thought it would be 9-2 to 5-1. Paid more to show than to win.
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09-29-2017, 10:48 PM
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Belmont Race #5: 9/30/17
Alex the Terror 12-1
Another one with out the trainer of jockey. Get's a good PP, and from there has a very good trip. 3 wins at the distance, and the highest speed figure at the distance.
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09-30-2017, 09:13 AM
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Race went as I thought it would, and got a win. Did not think I would only get 7-2, thought it would be 9-2 to 5-1. Paid more to show than to win.
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Nice score bro
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09-30-2017, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jay68802
Belmont Race #5: 9/30/17
Alex the Terror 12-1
Another one with out the trainer of jockey. Get's a good PP, and from there has a very good trip. 3 wins at the distance, and the highest speed figure at the distance.
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I find it interesting that J C Englehart had #8 Alex The Terror
G Sciacca has the horse now and has been showing some positive returns across the board in Allowance Optional Claiming* races
It is also interesting that #8 Alex The Terror
came out of that Claiming Merry Go Round Trickery race the --- Life In Shambles incident:
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=140535
At any rate, maybe you are on to something and G Sciacca pops a big price to hit the board with this horse!!!
*I treat any Optional Claiming (i.e. Starter Optional Claiming, Optional Claiming,,, etc.) as Allowance Optional Claiming
Last edited by TheOracle; 09-30-2017 at 11:13 AM.
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09-30-2017, 12:04 PM
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Nice score bro
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Thank you, and since you brought up Engelhart, he is drawn just inside of the in this race and puts Ortiz up. I really like the fact that Alex the Terror can see the main speed in the race from the start. Gives him a clear view of his target.
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09-30-2017, 12:24 PM
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Thank you, and since you brought up Engelhart, he is drawn just inside of the in this race and puts Ortiz up. I really like the fact that Alex the Terror can see the main speed in the race from the start. Gives him a clear view of his target.
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The other piece of good news is that Brown's horses have been struggling in Allowance Optional Claiming* races on the Dirt at Belmont this year!!!
His Morning Lines less than 3-1 in Allowance Optional Claiming* races on the Dirt so far have been struggling so #3 Favorable Outcome might get beat today!!!
*I treat any Optional Claiming (i.e. Starter Optional Claiming, Optional Claiming,,, etc.) as Allowance Optional Claiming
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10-01-2017, 11:08 AM
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M A Hennig's Maidens have been hitting the board at a 67% rate on the Dirt at Belmont since May 5th!!!
You are getting an 86% return per $2 win place and show wager on his Maidens on the Dirt at Belmont!!!
He has this Maiden on the Dirt today at Belmont:
6th race
#8 Fortune Street
Let's see if he can get this one to hit the board at a price today at Belmont!!!
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10-02-2017, 12:43 PM
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Finger Lakes #8: 10/2/17
5-1
Draws the outside post and forces the jockey's hand. Wire to wire is the way this one goes.
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